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Re: [opensuse-factory] Locking packages ...
- From: Martin Schlander <suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:51:56 +0200
- Message-id: <200704201451.56774.suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
Den Friday 20 April 2007 14:24:53 skrev Benji Weber:
> I like the suggestion a lot. The user will specifically want to
> install the packman versions of crippled packages, but won't want
> build service re-cripped newer versions to override them. Also it
> would help discourage upgrade all mentality which would replace all
> suse supported packages with the newer unsupported versions on packman
> when the user doesn't require the newer version.
>
> > I see and i dont like it. Because that would mean that you never get
> > anything updated from a 3rd party repo because there the vendor will
> > always be != <what you have now a.k.a. SUSE after a install
>
> User would still be able to request upgrade to a different vendor, but
> automatic upgrades to different vendor are more likely to cause
> problems than be useful imo.
I agree. But Henne makes a good point too, and I have no doubt that many, many
users will be very unhappy if "upgrade all"-behaviour is made more difficult
for them - even if it is for their own good ;-)
Many already want it to be even easier than now - for example by
opensuseupdater supporting it.
Maybe it could be possible to have two options.
Only do semi-automatic updates from same vendor (default)
and
Do semi-automatic upgrade of any package where newer version is avaialable,
(break-my-SUSE)
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> I like the suggestion a lot. The user will specifically want to
> install the packman versions of crippled packages, but won't want
> build service re-cripped newer versions to override them. Also it
> would help discourage upgrade all mentality which would replace all
> suse supported packages with the newer unsupported versions on packman
> when the user doesn't require the newer version.
>
> > I see and i dont like it. Because that would mean that you never get
> > anything updated from a 3rd party repo because there the vendor will
> > always be != <what you have now a.k.a. SUSE after a install
>
> User would still be able to request upgrade to a different vendor, but
> automatic upgrades to different vendor are more likely to cause
> problems than be useful imo.
I agree. But Henne makes a good point too, and I have no doubt that many, many
users will be very unhappy if "upgrade all"-behaviour is made more difficult
for them - even if it is for their own good ;-)
Many already want it to be even easier than now - for example by
opensuseupdater supporting it.
Maybe it could be possible to have two options.
Only do semi-automatic updates from same vendor (default)
and
Do semi-automatic upgrade of any package where newer version is avaialable,
(break-my-SUSE)
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