Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (392 mails)

[Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Eberhard Moenkeberg escribió:
 
> > But unfortunately not for SLES - there the hassle has to go on (by order), 
> > and that may affect the business part of SUSE/Novell.
> 
> well.. you probably know what happends to a part of a commercial product
>  if cause to loose money..it becomes either an documented bug or
> disappears..that pressure is higher than comunnity pressure I guess ;-P

Surely, they have to turn "bad" management decision into "good" result, 
but without help of the community now.

> > Let's hope this shit will turn into gold without help from the community.
> > Not the best chance...
> 
> It probably has a chance to improve if
> 
> 1. is not marketed as be integrated with yast ( integration will never
> work, it hurts so much...)
> 
> 2. if rug is separated from the zmd daemon (yes,rug is fine IMHO) and
> ZMD dissapears from the scene.
> 
> 3. it is fixed to achieve better performance (I guess that requires
> fixing not only Zenworks but mono and other components)

Surely, almost everytime high-level is low-performance. But this is not 
known to managers: they have to deserve it in practice before they 
"believe" it (almost never "understand"). This result usually is coming 
too late for the business.

> Finally, Im pleased with this announce and invite the rest of the
> contributors to test zypper and related stuff **madly**. I can now stop
> bugging people about Zenworks problems and use my time in a more
> productive and less annoying task.

Yes. But I fear about SLES usage quality - we have more than 1000 licenses 
here - already lowered by number against the past years due to changed 
pricing models (more money for the same number of servers - obviously 
Novell does not reflect RedHat's "educational" prices); our new license 
contract may be the last by two reasons now...


Viele Grüße
Eberhard Mönkeberg (emoenke@xxxxxxx, em@xxxxxxx)