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Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
- From: Jim Pye <jim.pye@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:58:41 +1300
- Message-id: <1169499521.14577.21.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 15:49 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> However one thing I see missing, it could however be in things like
>> coreutils, is an editor. Not wanting to start a flame war but vi,
emacs,
>> pico, nano etc.
> That's why I decided to leave this out. I do expect that those
> experts that use the minimal base system will add their own choice.
>
This would be good as long as it was obvious that an editor is not going
to be installed by default and the installer must choose one.
One place I can think of that a missing editor was annoying was the
ZENworks imaging boot disk. It uses something similar to busybox for the
commands but didnot include an editor which made it a pain to modify
configuration files etc.
> > My definition of base system (minimum system) would also be the hardware
> > it runs on. Minimum memory, graphics/text display etc. When constructing
> > a minimum/base system this could be taken into consideration when
> > choosing pieces to be included or not.
>
> What exactly do you mean here?
What I was trying to say is that the hardware, that a base system should
be aimed at, should be minimum spec as well. Minimum memory, minimum
video capibilities, etc.
For example I have a machine running here as a server, uses runlevel 3
and I ssh into it to manage, the monitor powerlead is unplugged most of
the time. The monitor is an old 15" Philips that when trying to install
10.1 and 10.2 does not handle the default resolution of the very first
screens of the install. So I have to guess the keypresses to choose the
option to change the resolution to minimum so the install continues. It
is a bit annoying that the very first screens are GUI based and do not
use a minimum resolution.
Jim
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>> However one thing I see missing, it could however be in things like
>> coreutils, is an editor. Not wanting to start a flame war but vi,
emacs,
>> pico, nano etc.
> That's why I decided to leave this out. I do expect that those
> experts that use the minimal base system will add their own choice.
>
This would be good as long as it was obvious that an editor is not going
to be installed by default and the installer must choose one.
One place I can think of that a missing editor was annoying was the
ZENworks imaging boot disk. It uses something similar to busybox for the
commands but didnot include an editor which made it a pain to modify
configuration files etc.
> > My definition of base system (minimum system) would also be the hardware
> > it runs on. Minimum memory, graphics/text display etc. When constructing
> > a minimum/base system this could be taken into consideration when
> > choosing pieces to be included or not.
>
> What exactly do you mean here?
What I was trying to say is that the hardware, that a base system should
be aimed at, should be minimum spec as well. Minimum memory, minimum
video capibilities, etc.
For example I have a machine running here as a server, uses runlevel 3
and I ssh into it to manage, the monitor powerlead is unplugged most of
the time. The monitor is an old 15" Philips that when trying to install
10.1 and 10.2 does not handle the default resolution of the very first
screens of the install. So I have to guess the keypresses to choose the
option to change the resolution to minimum so the install continues. It
is a bit annoying that the very first screens are GUI based and do not
use a minimum resolution.
Jim
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Jim Pye
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