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Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
- From: Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:47:25 +0100
- Message-id: <m3r6trxs9e.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Hans Witvliet <hwit@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Well, LVM would be the wrong example.
> It should not be a black-or-white situation:
>
> Very early on, a hardware detection should be done.
> And, for instance, only if tv-harware is found, only then the yast
> modules for confifuring tv should be installed.
>
> If you want to configure your basic system with lvm, you'll need lvm
> right away, but only in that case!
Yes, I agree. That's where we should go. But for that you first need
to define the absolute base.
> I have a feeling that the dependency (for yast-modules) is too rigid:
> you get it, wether you need (or want) it or not.
> Refining the threads?
>
> The "minimal" system for 10.1 had a "rather large foot print" to put it
> mildly, and got worse on 10.2.
So, let's work together to get it smaller again - I'm down right now
to 400 MB. Still far too much but now it gets more tricky...
> If (and only if) i decide to install any resource-pig, disk-space and
> mem will be claimed. Not for: "perhaps they want it perhaps later on or
> so." If I want or need it, i'll selected & install it.
I agree that should be the philosophy behind the minimal system.
> I know, that systems tend to grow larger and larger (tnx to M$), but
> please, try to have a minimal system realy minimal.
Please help me with it ;-)
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, aj@xxxxxxx, http://www.suse.de/~aj/
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Well, LVM would be the wrong example.
> It should not be a black-or-white situation:
>
> Very early on, a hardware detection should be done.
> And, for instance, only if tv-harware is found, only then the yast
> modules for confifuring tv should be installed.
>
> If you want to configure your basic system with lvm, you'll need lvm
> right away, but only in that case!
Yes, I agree. That's where we should go. But for that you first need
to define the absolute base.
> I have a feeling that the dependency (for yast-modules) is too rigid:
> you get it, wether you need (or want) it or not.
> Refining the threads?
>
> The "minimal" system for 10.1 had a "rather large foot print" to put it
> mildly, and got worse on 10.2.
So, let's work together to get it smaller again - I'm down right now
to 400 MB. Still far too much but now it gets more tricky...
> If (and only if) i decide to install any resource-pig, disk-space and
> mem will be claimed. Not for: "perhaps they want it perhaps later on or
> so." If I want or need it, i'll selected & install it.
I agree that should be the philosophy behind the minimal system.
> I know, that systems tend to grow larger and larger (tnx to M$), but
> please, try to have a minimal system realy minimal.
Please help me with it ;-)
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, aj@xxxxxxx, http://www.suse.de/~aj/
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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