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Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
- From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:14:18 +0100
- Message-id: <45AF9CDA.5090200@xxxxxxx>
Klaus Kaempf wrote:
> * Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@xxxxxxx> [Jan 18. 2007 16:03]:
>> So you need some convinent way to install software. You also want security updates for
>> them. I don't see how xen guests are that much different than a minimum
>> system on real hardware.
>
> Depends on how you manage your xen guests. From the 'inside' (having network
> and e.g. online-update running inside the guest) or the 'outside' (loopback
> mounting the image and install selected updates) ?
Inside. Outside implies downtime. Or do you install security updates
on real hardware by booting the rescue system, mounting disk and
installing them?
> But even for these environments, you probably need a minimal set
> of packages like glibc, bash, etc. The question is, shouldn't this
> minimal set be the 'very minimal base' (:-)) pattern ?
Hmm, maybe we need two then? One "boot to bash prompt" and one
"rescue-system like, with network and zypper"?
cheers,
Gerd
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> * Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@xxxxxxx> [Jan 18. 2007 16:03]:
>> So you need some convinent way to install software. You also want security updates for
>> them. I don't see how xen guests are that much different than a minimum
>> system on real hardware.
>
> Depends on how you manage your xen guests. From the 'inside' (having network
> and e.g. online-update running inside the guest) or the 'outside' (loopback
> mounting the image and install selected updates) ?
Inside. Outside implies downtime. Or do you install security updates
on real hardware by booting the rescue system, mounting disk and
installing them?
> But even for these environments, you probably need a minimal set
> of packages like glibc, bash, etc. The question is, shouldn't this
> minimal set be the 'very minimal base' (:-)) pattern ?
Hmm, maybe we need two then? One "boot to bash prompt" and one
"rescue-system like, with network and zypper"?
cheers,
Gerd
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