Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (297 mails)

["Claes Bäckström" <claes.backstrom@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 1/18/07, Klaus Kaempf <kkaempf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> * Claes Bäckström <claes.backstrom@xxxxxxxxx> [Jan 18. 2007 09:56]:
> >
> > Something I would like to see in the "base" pattern is tools to
> > install new software and with that I don't only mean rpm but a way to
> > use a network source for installation and update perhaps zypper?
>
> As written before, I'd see such tools as convenience applications.
>
> Maybe we should define the purpose and application of such a 'base'
> pattern first.
> Is it for
> 1. installing a really minimal but somewhat usable system via CD/DVD ?
> 2. running a (Xen) virtual guest ?
> 3. running a chroot environment ?
>
> For 1., a minimal YaST or zypper would be essential, I agree.
>
> For 2. or 3. a bash prompt would probably be sufficient (plus a
> way to install the application you want to run virtualized.)
>
>
> Klaus


I see your point. And I agree. I just see a problem that it could lead
to a lot of "servers" unmaintained updatewise. And that could be a
potential problem. We should also think about the people not active in
the opensuse community but still using it. I believe that they would
choose base system to install thinking "I can add the rest of the
stuff later." When we then tell them to download 10 (number taken from
the air) rpm by hand and move to the server and then install with rpm
they would say it sucks.

But on the other side, you are correct. If would like to see opensuse
used in embeded environments that puts it in another light.

Now I even confused myself to the point that I'm not sure anymore.

Warm Regards,
Claes Backstrom