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Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
  • From: "Claes Bäckström" <claes.backstrom@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:55:44 +0100
  • Message-id: <f7ddb9110701180055h7611003bpd959f20ac906562c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 1/18/07, Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I heard from several sides that the base system of openSUSE 10.2 is a
bit large - and agree and would like to discuss with you what we can
do.

I thought about the following:
* make the existing base system pattern really minimal
* add another conveninience pattern that has all the extra stuff we
currently have in the base system - and require this for all other
patterns.

For a really minimal base system we have to define what we need first.

Here's a proposal for a "Definition Base System":
Multiuser system with:
* Local login (via /etc/passwd)
* network setup via ethernet
* default filesystems used (ext3) directly (without evms, lvm,
mdraid etc)
* no services running by default

My questions for discussion are especially the following:

* What do you think of this? Do you have better ideas?

* Is the "base system definition" ok? What's missing - or is it still
too much or should made clearer?

* How do I name the new pattern with all the extra stuff?


Note this is in some ways a followup to bug #228815,


I think this sounds like a great idea. I was only yesterday thinking
of this exact thing. Nice to know that I'm in such a sync with other
great minds.

Something I would like to see in the "base" pattern is tools to
install new software and with that I don't only mean rpm but a way to
use a network source for installation and update perhaps zypper? And I
personally never install a machine nowdays without lvm2 so for me that
is a essential tool (others might disagree). But the update/install
parts is the most important.

Warm Regards,
Claes Backstrom
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