I heard from several sides that the base system of openSUSE 10.2 is a bit large - and agree and would like to discuss with you what we can do. I thought about the following: * make the existing base system pattern really minimal * add another conveninience pattern that has all the extra stuff we currently have in the base system - and require this for all other patterns. For a really minimal base system we have to define what we need first. Here's a proposal for a "Definition Base System": Multiuser system with: * Local login (via /etc/passwd) * network setup via ethernet * default filesystems used (ext3) directly (without evms, lvm, mdraid etc) * no services running by default My questions for discussion are especially the following: * What do you think of this? Do you have better ideas? * Is the "base system definition" ok? What's missing - or is it still too much or should made clearer? * How do I name the new pattern with all the extra stuff? Note this is in some ways a followup to bug #228815, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126