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Re: [opensuse-factory] GM release
- From: Rajko M <rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:59:23 -0600
- Message-id: <200612062159.23710.rmatov101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 07:48, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Tuesday 2006-12-05 at 19:20 -0600, Rajko M wrote:
> > I thought that more people with underpowered machines are present on
> > openSUSE, but that is obviously not the case :-)
>
> Why do you say that? I'm interested, but I'm no developper, I don't think
> I can contribute. What kind of contribution is needed?
To make MiniSUSE running, it is necessary to understand Installation, as it is
proven that even the 10.1 can run in text mode or some GUI with modest
requests to hardware. I tested it with 300 MHz CPU and 128 MB RAM, and I'm
satisfied. It is not flying, but for sure not crawling like under KDE.
The same machine had FreeBSD, and PC BSD with KDE, and it was slow during KDE
startup, but usable afterwards, so there is room for optimization.
In the beginning we wanted to analyze Installation and for that one has to
have the time and some skills. The only programmer in the group that started
project is Boyd, but I would say he is short with the time.
So we need more people with underpowered machines, that will profit the most
if project make progress, willing to analyze and test. They would be
programmers in a first place, able to find why Installer needs more memory
than installed system, and where to search for solutions, but also MiniSUSE
will need many testers.
Articles
http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory
and
http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Remote_Logging_in_Installation
shed some light on a problem with workarounds how to minimize memory usage.
Now we can define that the first goal of MiniSUSE would be:
- to test procedure in article, that will make possible to install openSUSE on
underpowered machines
- define pattern for minimal text mode where machine can be used as low
traffic server, and many other purposes where GUI is superficial
- define pattern for minimal GUI where main usage will be mail, some text
writing, web browsing, and whatever can work with sharp hardware limitations
Who will profit from?
Probably the biggest winner will be schools, charities and many kids that
can't afford reasonably fast hardware, not to mention the latest and the
greatest.
BTW, I'm short with time too, and considering MiniSUSE I just keep it alive,
adding usefull links from time to time, and do other tasks on openSUSE wiki
that doesn't demand too much time at once (like Portal, writing articles,
etc :-)
After your question, I think that I have to rewrite article to include on more
prominent places that we need testing of ideas in above 2 articles.
What do you think?
--
Regards,
Rajko M.
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> The Tuesday 2006-12-05 at 19:20 -0600, Rajko M wrote:
> > I thought that more people with underpowered machines are present on
> > openSUSE, but that is obviously not the case :-)
>
> Why do you say that? I'm interested, but I'm no developper, I don't think
> I can contribute. What kind of contribution is needed?
To make MiniSUSE running, it is necessary to understand Installation, as it is
proven that even the 10.1 can run in text mode or some GUI with modest
requests to hardware. I tested it with 300 MHz CPU and 128 MB RAM, and I'm
satisfied. It is not flying, but for sure not crawling like under KDE.
The same machine had FreeBSD, and PC BSD with KDE, and it was slow during KDE
startup, but usable afterwards, so there is room for optimization.
In the beginning we wanted to analyze Installation and for that one has to
have the time and some skills. The only programmer in the group that started
project is Boyd, but I would say he is short with the time.
So we need more people with underpowered machines, that will profit the most
if project make progress, willing to analyze and test. They would be
programmers in a first place, able to find why Installer needs more memory
than installed system, and where to search for solutions, but also MiniSUSE
will need many testers.
Articles
http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory
and
http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Remote_Logging_in_Installation
shed some light on a problem with workarounds how to minimize memory usage.
Now we can define that the first goal of MiniSUSE would be:
- to test procedure in article, that will make possible to install openSUSE on
underpowered machines
- define pattern for minimal text mode where machine can be used as low
traffic server, and many other purposes where GUI is superficial
- define pattern for minimal GUI where main usage will be mail, some text
writing, web browsing, and whatever can work with sharp hardware limitations
Who will profit from?
Probably the biggest winner will be schools, charities and many kids that
can't afford reasonably fast hardware, not to mention the latest and the
greatest.
BTW, I'm short with time too, and considering MiniSUSE I just keep it alive,
adding usefull links from time to time, and do other tasks on openSUSE wiki
that doesn't demand too much time at once (like Portal, writing articles,
etc :-)
After your question, I think that I have to rewrite article to include on more
prominent places that we need testing of ideas in above 2 articles.
What do you think?
--
Regards,
Rajko M.
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