Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (599 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxx>]

Azerion <azerion@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> This is a mail that I send to Andreas some days ago: It is a reply so the 
> start is not like a normal startpost.

Thanks for resending it here. Sorry, personal email sometimes takes
time to answer :-(

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>
> People are confused by seeing 
> Httpserver, DNS-server and so on in YaST. YaST is great but at this moment it 
> becomes 'unorganised' (posted a bugzilla on that some month ago) in the way 
> that it offers to much that is not needed (and not properly bundeld). Same 
> thing is the case at this moment in SL 10.1 with ZEN (not in one screen but 3 
> apps)
>
> Another thing about YaST is the following:
>
> At this moment YaST is used to install SL/oS. Looking at other distro's and 
> OS's it is great and it works. But it is not _that_ good looking and not 
> _that_ simple and fast to use. Maybe an idea for 10.3 to pimp the install and 
> change some things....
>
> Idea 1: Do not use 'windows' like we do use it now. It should be a 
> fullscreen 'background'. That way you can change the background of the 
> installer every release and that would be nice. Look at the links and scoll 
> that page. That looks nice to mr. Joe Average!
>
> http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Screenshot_Submissions#Freespire_Welcome_Screen
Something I liked - we even discussed this over a year ago and then
other things become more important :-(.  Could you add this to the
wishlist, please?

> Idea 2: Let the user select what screens he/she wants to use default: 
> default/expert. On every screen in default there will be an option to see 
> expert-options but you don't have to make the choice every time.

The problem is that most people want one expert option but not all.
So, allowing the choice is needed - but on the other hand I think that
with our proposals we do something similar as well.

> Idea 3: This one is stolen from Vista. Drop those radiobuttons (round things) 
> and replace it with an nice arrow that directly reponse.


> Idea 4: Do not show more information the needed in default. I don't care what 
> step I have had and which one will come next. So the progress-tree can be 
> dropped in default (maybe a little button to show and give the opportunity to 
> go back some steps to change a setting). When SL is installing you see stats 

This is controversial - usability  tests show that the progress bar is
important.

> about each disk, packages, size and so on. The only thing the customer wants 
> to now is :
> - how far are we in total?
> - how long will it take from now on?
> - when do I need to insert another cd?
>
> [========                ]                                   < no numbers!
> Estimated: 12 minutes              Next CD: 2 minutes
>
> Under that there is a lot of space for a slideshow I guess.

We do have the slideshow.

> Idea 5: Take care of that you show a lot of nice things in the slideshow. 3 
> buttons: prev, next, diashow. It uses some space on the disk but new users 
> will welcome it....

What exactly do you suggest here?

> Do you have some comments on it. Some point have reached the ML and bugzilla 
> before but I guess this time I want to make a mockup if there is a chance 
> that it will be redesigned.

No chance for 10.2 to do fundamental changes but a mockup is something
I would like to see.

Thanks,
Andreas
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