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Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug
- From: Adrian Schröter <adrian@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:45:56 +0200
- Message-id: <200608251045.56207.adrian@xxxxxxx>
Am Friday 25 August 2006 04:14 schrieb Robert Schiele:
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:01:14PM +0200, Adrian Schroeter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > on popular request, we separated the debuginfo packages from Factory into
> > a separated repository.
>
> I wonder why I didn't catch a single one of these "popular requests" on
> this mailing list.
there were a number of bugzilla reports around this.
> > We will have SL-OSS-Factory and SL-OSS-Factory-debug directories with the
> > next sync.
> >
> > Users of the opensuse-full or opensuse-full-with-factory modules do not
> > have to change anything.
> >
> > I hope this is fine with everybody.
>
> Well, actually in my opinion it is just more unconvenient to have all these
> repository splits if you want to setup installation sources. I mean I can
> understand the reason to separate the non-oss stuff to have an oss-clean
> distribution. (Actually I still can't understand why non-oss stuff for
> factory must be still hosted on suse.com whereas all other non-oss stuff is
> now hosted on opensuse.org.)
>
> But what was the _reason_ for the debuginfo split? Just that some people
> wanted to have it without having a reason? Or didn't they understand how
> to use --exclude with rsync?
Basicaly two reasons:
1. Mirrors can skip the debuginfo packages, without an exclude rule and
without to "break" the repository meta data.
2. The installers have less meta data to handle by default (when you ignore
the -debug repo), this let them take less memory, faster downloads of the
meta data and faster solving.
bye
adrian
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Adrian Schroeter
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany
email: adrian@xxxxxxx
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> On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 06:01:14PM +0200, Adrian Schroeter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > on popular request, we separated the debuginfo packages from Factory into
> > a separated repository.
>
> I wonder why I didn't catch a single one of these "popular requests" on
> this mailing list.
there were a number of bugzilla reports around this.
> > We will have SL-OSS-Factory and SL-OSS-Factory-debug directories with the
> > next sync.
> >
> > Users of the opensuse-full or opensuse-full-with-factory modules do not
> > have to change anything.
> >
> > I hope this is fine with everybody.
>
> Well, actually in my opinion it is just more unconvenient to have all these
> repository splits if you want to setup installation sources. I mean I can
> understand the reason to separate the non-oss stuff to have an oss-clean
> distribution. (Actually I still can't understand why non-oss stuff for
> factory must be still hosted on suse.com whereas all other non-oss stuff is
> now hosted on opensuse.org.)
>
> But what was the _reason_ for the debuginfo split? Just that some people
> wanted to have it without having a reason? Or didn't they understand how
> to use --exclude with rsync?
Basicaly two reasons:
1. Mirrors can skip the debuginfo packages, without an exclude rule and
without to "break" the repository meta data.
2. The installers have less meta data to handle by default (when you ignore
the -debug repo), this let them take less memory, faster downloads of the
meta data and faster solving.
bye
adrian
--
Adrian Schroeter
SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany
email: adrian@xxxxxxx
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