Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (599 mails)

[Marcel Hilzinger <mhilzinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Am Montag, 21. August 2006 14:48 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > Andreas Jaeger wrote:
[...]
> I added for now - and did this only for KDE, GNOME will come later - a
> generic KDE desktop pattern and a few sub patterns:
> * KDE-BASIS
> * KDE-Devel
> * KDE-Edutainment
> * KDE-Games
> * KDE-Help
> * KDE-IMAGE
> * KDE-Internet
> * KDE-Multimedia
> * KDE-Office
> * KDE-System
> * KDE-Utilities

What about kdesdk (Kbabel,etc)? Will it be part of KDE-Devel?


> > Laptop
> > +--- (not sure how to divide this)
>
> I don't know either.
I don't think there is need for a special laptop pattern. Powersave stuff 
should work with any PC. 

All the rest depends on specific laptops, so it shouldn't be installed on each 
laptop. E.g if you have an Acer laptop, why would you need sony laptop 
settings in Kcontrol? Or if you have a Dell, your probably not interested in 
IBM Thinkpad settings. These moduls are only workarounds for non working 
hard/software.

Of course it would be great, if such packages could be installed automatically 
for the specific laptop only.

> > Server
> >
> > +--- Fileserver
> >
> > +--- Internetserver (DNS, web etc.)
> > +--- Database
> > +--- Directory
> > +--- Firewall, network server
> > +--- etcetera
>
> I have now:
> * Directory (LDAP)
> * Fileserver
Samba, NFS?

> * Mailserver
> * LAMP
> * XEN
> * Internet Gateway
>
> > [other roles?]
Database (MySQL, PostgreSQL)

> Development - not sure how to structure this.
>
> > This is only a proposal - I really just wrote it up in five minutes.
> > Maybe it's entirely in appropriate.
> >
> > Maybe the selection is 1-2-3 step:  Primary qualifier, secondary
> > qualifier, plus add-ons (things you might want to do regardless of
> > which type of system): "Experienced User", "Kernel development", ....
>
> I don't like Experienced user - this should be split into several
> patterns...
>
> > Primary and secondary qualifier could fit into one page/window in a
> > tree-style display as the above, and going to the 2nd window for
> > add-ons could be made optional, such that new-bies or non-techies would
> > have a fast-path, whereas techies and/or experienced users would still
> > have the option of a detailed selection etc.
Actually I would recommend to take over the old selections for the new 
patterns in expert mode. For newbies/non techies we should make new patterns, 
e.g

First choice:

[] KDE system
[] Gnome system
[] System with minimal desktop
[] System without graphical desktop
[] Expert


Second choice (if choosen one of the above):

[x] KDE system (base, help included)
	[] Edutainment
	[] Games
	[] Graphics
	[] Internet-Tools
	[] Multimedia
	[] Office
	[] System & Utilities
	[] Development
	[] Artwork
		[] Wallpapers
		[] Fonts
		[] Screensavers
		[] Icons

[ ] Gnome system (base, help included)
	[] Edutainment
	[] Games
	[] Graphics
	[] Internet-Tools
	[] Multimedia
	[] Office
	[] System & Utilities
	[] Development
	[] Artwork


[] System with minimal desktop
	[] Windowmaker
		[] Graphics
		[] Internet-Tools
		[] Multimedia	
		[] Artwork
	[] Icewm
	[] Fvwm2
	[] Xfce4
	[] File and printserver
	[] Directory server (LDAP)
	[] Mailserver
	[] LAMP
	[] XEN
	[] Internet Gateway

[] System without graphical desktop
	[] File and printserver
	[] Directory server (LDAP)
	[] Mailserver
	[] LAMP
	[] XEN
	[] Internet Gateway

There should always be an "Expert" button, which gives back the possibility to 
choose one of the selections we had until 10.1, so old users wont be 
frustrated. Here there is also place for things like LaTeX.

And: please keep the very good patterns for kde-development and 
gnome-development including almost everything one needs to compile a KDE/GTK 
app!


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Marcel Hilzinger

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