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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] SUSE Linux 10.2 Alpha2 Release - and distribution rename
- From: Martin Schlander <suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:27:38 +0200
- Message-id: <200607132227.38187.suse@xxxxxxxxxx>
Torsdag 13 juli 2006 13:49 skrev houghi:
> Great news. Not so much the name, but taking away the confusion.
You think this will end confusion?
- Many of us have been trying to explain to people that the distro is SUSE
Linux for the last 10 months. These people are going to be confused.
- Many people have been running SUSE Linux for years, but don't follow the
news - they're going to be confused when they go to the store and the retail
box says "openSUSE".
- I already anticipate a lot of people being confused about non-oss being
available on the openSUSE dvd (assuming that'll still be the case on 10.2).
And we'll still have to do a lot of explaining. Most people will expect
that "open" means pure open source.
- There's a huge infrastructure of forums, websites, irc-channels etc. that
will be obsoleted and have to change their names. Probably some of those
won't change their domain name - that will cause confusion too.
- On the short term any name change will cause confusion - after all most
people know that SUSE Linux is the correct name.
Besides this namechange makes me feel like SLED/S is the "real" SUSE - and
SL/openSUSE is lowest priority (kind of the same feeling I had when the
package management changes were forced through after feature freeze), I
expect a lot of other people will also see this as a sign of SL getting lower
priority - which can harm the distro.
Also hereby a lot of the history that SUSE name had is lost. The name is also
too long. In other words - I don't like it.
Furthermore the namechange will steal attention from the community project.
People will think openSUSE is just the name of the distro - and noone will
know or care about the project.
ALL the people I know who actually use SUSE would have preferred to keep that
name. All the people I know who likes openSUSE don't know what it's about -
and don't use SUSE Linux.
All in all I think this decision is made 100% for the benefit of SLED/S - with
little or no consideration for the many, many loyal and active SUSE Linux
users.
Current mood: Don't know whether to cry or break something.
To be fair I do see some benefits:
- Maybe now we can have everything on one server - unlike both
ftp.opensuse.org and ftp.suse.com
- A lot of people seem to like the name - hence it's been so damn hard trying
to explain to these goofballs it's not the name of the distro. However I
believe most of these people liked the name because they thought that
openSUSE was non-Novell and 100% non-oss - and something different than SUSE
Linux - and for some reason they liked that idea.
Martin / cb400f
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> Great news. Not so much the name, but taking away the confusion.
You think this will end confusion?
- Many of us have been trying to explain to people that the distro is SUSE
Linux for the last 10 months. These people are going to be confused.
- Many people have been running SUSE Linux for years, but don't follow the
news - they're going to be confused when they go to the store and the retail
box says "openSUSE".
- I already anticipate a lot of people being confused about non-oss being
available on the openSUSE dvd (assuming that'll still be the case on 10.2).
And we'll still have to do a lot of explaining. Most people will expect
that "open" means pure open source.
- There's a huge infrastructure of forums, websites, irc-channels etc. that
will be obsoleted and have to change their names. Probably some of those
won't change their domain name - that will cause confusion too.
- On the short term any name change will cause confusion - after all most
people know that SUSE Linux is the correct name.
Besides this namechange makes me feel like SLED/S is the "real" SUSE - and
SL/openSUSE is lowest priority (kind of the same feeling I had when the
package management changes were forced through after feature freeze), I
expect a lot of other people will also see this as a sign of SL getting lower
priority - which can harm the distro.
Also hereby a lot of the history that SUSE name had is lost. The name is also
too long. In other words - I don't like it.
Furthermore the namechange will steal attention from the community project.
People will think openSUSE is just the name of the distro - and noone will
know or care about the project.
ALL the people I know who actually use SUSE would have preferred to keep that
name. All the people I know who likes openSUSE don't know what it's about -
and don't use SUSE Linux.
All in all I think this decision is made 100% for the benefit of SLED/S - with
little or no consideration for the many, many loyal and active SUSE Linux
users.
Current mood: Don't know whether to cry or break something.
To be fair I do see some benefits:
- Maybe now we can have everything on one server - unlike both
ftp.opensuse.org and ftp.suse.com
- A lot of people seem to like the name - hence it's been so damn hard trying
to explain to these goofballs it's not the name of the distro. However I
believe most of these people liked the name because they thought that
openSUSE was non-Novell and 100% non-oss - and something different than SUSE
Linux - and for some reason they liked that idea.
Martin / cb400f
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