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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: upcoming smart 0.42
- From: Volker Kuhlmann <hidden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:19:48 +1200
- Message-id: <20060615021948.GB3865@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> as the development team of the smart package manager is getting ready to
> release smart 0.42 shortly, I would like to ask everyone who is using
> smart on SUSE Linux to help testing.
I'm afraid I'm running out of time to spend on this. See my previous
comments on this list for starters. Then add:
* The handling of repository types and repository locations is not
independent. Some types can only be fetched from some locations.
* Auto-detection of repository type is lousy, with output of what it is
expected to find too short. Also, type "bunch of rpm files" should
always work as a fallback. It doesn't.
* The main smart window and its pop-up window sometimes look stone dead,
no input accepted. Confusing, until one finds that clicking the main
smart window to the foreground brings the pop-up on top, but leaves the
second-level pop-up right at the bottom of the pile of desktop windows.
* I can see no way to tell it to only install X, and Y of the currently
available updates, but not the other 20. I prefer to be in control when
I want to.
* There is no obvious "tell me what you're gonna do" if I click on
something potentialy desastrous, like the "go for it" button.
* It needs to handle patch and delta rpms.
* Log windows can extend way below the bottom of the screen, no scroll
bar, and resizing is disabled. At least the "X"-off button at the
top-right window corner still works...
* A quick-launch icon-status thing for the KDE panel along the lines of
susewatcher is essential. If 0.42 has it, make sure it works ;)
* Personal preference, but I don't like the gnome look.
* The package list needs to be optionally separate for packages from
other repositories. Specifically, when I'm interested in vendor updates,
I don't need to see the gazillion things already installed. For a quick
updater prog, I like to see: the updates currently available for
packages I have installed, and all the updates available, including
those not appliccable and those already installed, suitably marked.
I stay with my earlier opinion that if smart wants to deserve its name,
it needs to get rather better than it is now. It's better than a
proof-of-concept, but doesn't reach "SUSE standard". Mind you, SUSE
doesn't currently reach its own standard either *vbg*
Volker
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> release smart 0.42 shortly, I would like to ask everyone who is using
> smart on SUSE Linux to help testing.
I'm afraid I'm running out of time to spend on this. See my previous
comments on this list for starters. Then add:
* The handling of repository types and repository locations is not
independent. Some types can only be fetched from some locations.
* Auto-detection of repository type is lousy, with output of what it is
expected to find too short. Also, type "bunch of rpm files" should
always work as a fallback. It doesn't.
* The main smart window and its pop-up window sometimes look stone dead,
no input accepted. Confusing, until one finds that clicking the main
smart window to the foreground brings the pop-up on top, but leaves the
second-level pop-up right at the bottom of the pile of desktop windows.
* I can see no way to tell it to only install X, and Y of the currently
available updates, but not the other 20. I prefer to be in control when
I want to.
* There is no obvious "tell me what you're gonna do" if I click on
something potentialy desastrous, like the "go for it" button.
* It needs to handle patch and delta rpms.
* Log windows can extend way below the bottom of the screen, no scroll
bar, and resizing is disabled. At least the "X"-off button at the
top-right window corner still works...
* A quick-launch icon-status thing for the KDE panel along the lines of
susewatcher is essential. If 0.42 has it, make sure it works ;)
* Personal preference, but I don't like the gnome look.
* The package list needs to be optionally separate for packages from
other repositories. Specifically, when I'm interested in vendor updates,
I don't need to see the gazillion things already installed. For a quick
updater prog, I like to see: the updates currently available for
packages I have installed, and all the updates available, including
those not appliccable and those already installed, suitably marked.
I stay with my earlier opinion that if smart wants to deserve its name,
it needs to get rather better than it is now. It's better than a
proof-of-concept, but doesn't reach "SUSE standard". Mind you, SUSE
doesn't currently reach its own standard either *vbg*
Volker
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