I'm sorry if i was perturbating this other thread with my bugs remarks, but I'm very confused on this subject, and -visibly- I'm not alone, so this must be addressed soon. In short, what is really buggy in the update SUSE 10.1 sytem and what is not? reading opensuse list and suse-linux-e list, it seems that nothing works on many hardware. The "I hate SUSE" game is full of players. the "most annoying bugs" http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_10.1#SUSE_Linux_10.1_.28Final... is itself buggy :-) say not very clear. what can an ordinary user know about "zen-updater" (I myself don't really understand what it's for); "will crash YaST." is specially frightening. all this makes me think "yast is not reliable" so my reaction. all the threads about rug, zmd, smart... are also very disturbing. SO. we need a wiki page linked to "most annoying bugs" with a clear statement like "In most situation you can safely use YaST online update. More, you should use it for _all_ your software work unless you are experienced with others utilities." and more. And written with the normal user in mind, not the debugger... a page we could give as reference for any related question. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos