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Re: [opensuse-edu] FOSDEM review / Status 11.1
- From: James Tremblay aka SLEducator <fxrsliberty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:44:34 -0500
- Message-id: <499A32A2.8040106@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Hey Lars,
I hope you had fun, some day I hope to go too! It sounds like you will
want to go again too.
Lars Vogdt wrote:
We have 2-3 Student Information Systems with GradeBooks.
openSIS is one, so is ClaSS .
The need for Tutorials, seems to be about the documentation provided
with each program and
an understanding of the Pedagogical and Curricular standards\needs of
the teachers
lessons, how each software program was designed to perform and what it
was designed to
provide in relation to these. These are the skills of teachers and the
softwares programming team,
more than technology specialists like us. My years of working in
schools have provided some
exposure to teachers implementing and integrating software into the
classroom but not any
specific training in the subject of curriculum integration.
support and the tools
to publish their teaching plans as designed around using the software.
Then present those plans as the teachers online help in html format.
Such as it is done with the help.opensuse.org link on the standard desktop.
(http://www.os4ed.com/openintel.php)
and our friends at http://www.openzis.org/ The core idea here is that
all software for education
should provide an API for transferring demographics data from one
central store to each program
and then being able to centralize the storage of statistical and
analytical data generated by the individual
programs.
and to begin openly developing an API \ SIF agent for those programs and
ours
which would provide a framework for further work like,
http://en.opensuse.org/Education_ERP,
that could be the platform for collecting, analyzing and managing
classroom data.
--
James Tremblay
openSIS Product Specialist
http://www.os4ed.com
mail james "AT" os4ed.com
CNE 3,4,5
MCSE w2k
CLE in training
Registered Linux user #440182
http://en.opensuse.org/education
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I hope you had fun, some day I hope to go too! It sounds like you will
want to go again too.
Lars Vogdt wrote:
Hi @llWhat is meant by "Test Results"?
Lets start with a first subjective view about FOSDEM 2009:
Friday/Saturday)
First time in Brussels, first time at FOSDEM, first Beer Event, ...
...I found my way back to the Hotel around 02:00 or 03:00 in the morning
(~2km/~1mile). Thinking about the people been there for the 4th or 5th
time and talking about "lost in Brussels" after their first Beer Event,
I'm shure they're telling the truth. Thanks to Google and all the other
people for the free Beer!
The booth was very crowded (university catacombs are very small :).
openSUSE-Education was present with our own Demo-System from HP.
(Thanks to HP and Lowry to make this happen!) and even if the current
11.1 graphic driver for the ATI graphics card was not really stable for
the hardware (interesting: the pre-installed SLED on this machine runs
without problems), we could show many of our Education Applications to
interested people.
Afternoon and night are full with interesting talks with teachers,
users, and ambassadors of some Education Initiatives.
Sunday)
Too early for me ;-) Our "early morning presentation"[1] has ~15-20
attendees, thanks for joining! We've interesting discussions afterwards
about the whole Education area - here are some topics (Andrea, please
add what I've missed):
1) A global storage solution for "test results" and "instruction
tutorials" is missing.
We have 2-3 Student Information Systems with GradeBooks.
openSIS is one, so is ClaSS .
The need for Tutorials, seems to be about the documentation provided
with each program and
an understanding of the Pedagogical and Curricular standards\needs of
the teachers
lessons, how each software program was designed to perform and what it
was designed to
provide in relation to these. These are the skills of teachers and the
softwares programming team,
more than technology specialists like us. My years of working in
schools have provided some
exposure to teachers implementing and integrating software into the
classroom but not any
specific training in the subject of curriculum integration.
Instruction tutorials (for teachers) about using a software in theirWe would need to gather some teachers, set them up with the software,
lessons should be placed in the wiki. This way, everyone is able to
work on it and the license is clear from the beginning. But we really
need a solution to extract the information from the wiki and add it to
the packages.
support and the tools
to publish their teaching plans as designed around using the software.
Then present those plans as the teachers online help in html format.
Such as it is done with the help.opensuse.org link on the standard desktop.
For test results and other stuff, we should think about aThis work is being looked into by us at OS4Ed
generic "Education Daemon" running on a server and receiving/sending
configuration data for applications and also storing test results. This
way, all Edu-Applications could be configured on a central place and
the progress of a child could be stored
(http://www.os4ed.com/openintel.php)
and our friends at http://www.openzis.org/ The core idea here is that
all software for education
should provide an API for transferring demographics data from one
central store to each program
and then being able to centralize the storage of statistical and
analytical data generated by the individual
programs.
I've already talked with TimI would love to have these teams help us put openSIS into a subversion tree
and David from Tux4Kids and Bruno from GCompris about this idea. I hope
to get this discussed more widely on the edubuntu-devel mailinglist
[2] - let's see what we can do.
and to begin openly developing an API \ SIF agent for those programs and
ours
which would provide a framework for further work like,
http://en.opensuse.org/Education_ERP,
that could be the platform for collecting, analyzing and managing
classroom data.
2) A simple frontend for administrating and installing many identical
clients.
Installation is not the problem as we already have tools like AutoYaST.
Keeping a configuration in sync is a "ToDo" - but as tools like the
YaST2-WebUI and Pupprt shows us, thinks are already work in progress.
3) Finding really useful packages for Education.
We still need people telling us which applications are *really* needed
for Education. I'm currently fine with using our Education wishlist[3]
as starting point - as these packages are requested by users. But we
should reduce the number of "duplicated" packages - means: packages
with the same goal like tuxtype & ktouch.
Think about the "Popularity Contest" of Debian. We should evaluate, if
this can also be used/packaged for openSUSE.
4) Focus on endusers:
Start with a simple to use internet filter. Enhance this in the future.
5) Where is the Live-CD?
First: we need more Live-CDs. I'm currently thinking about different CDs
containing applications for our defined age-groups. But there
could/should be more:
* Think about a Live-CD connecting to a server and automatically
creating/using a home-directory on this server.
6) Where is Sugar for openSUSE?
7) Using Remote-Applications ?
Having a server in Stockholm and running your application in your local
school.
8) Translation is important.
What openSUSE-Education can do is to provide a translation tool for
packages (to get a summary and description in the prefered language).
But we even should work together with upstream developers to get the
application translated. Think about the openSUSE-Education team
as "connector" between developers and endusers. If people want to
translate an applications, we should provide the "HowTo" and the
conection to upstream developers, so everyone can benefit from the
work.
---------------
Status 11.1:
Our current frozen repository contains RC2 since FOSDEM - including all
bugfixes for 11.1. If nobody has a blocker until Friday, 2009-02-20, I
think we should declare this RC2 as "Goldmaster" and freeze it. (Means:
1.0 will be done for all openSUSE Distributions!)
With kind regards,
Lars
[1]: http://en.opensuse.org/FOSDEM2009#Sunday.2C_February_8th
[2]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel
[3]: http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Education resp. devzilla
--
James Tremblay
openSIS Product Specialist
http://www.os4ed.com
mail james "AT" os4ed.com
CNE 3,4,5
MCSE w2k
CLE in training
Registered Linux user #440182
http://en.opensuse.org/education
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