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Re: [opensuse-edu] Desktop wiki page refactoring
  • From: Lars Vogdt <lrupp@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:37:39 +0100
  • Message-id: <20081119213739.xpp8ltwsw8o4kk88@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Kirill

First: big thanks for your work! The new layout looks much clearer and better now!


On Di 18 Nov 2008 23:41:02 CET Kirill Kirillov <kirill.kirillov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
2. The list of dropped packages in comparison with old page (why?):
bc (Math)

in the distro

calctool (Math)

in the distro

fraqtive (Math)

hm: need to be checked

dosbox (Emulator)
dosemu (Emulator)

both in the distro

quanta (WebDevelopment)

renamed

enigma (LogicGame)
kmahjongg (LogicGame)
kmines (LogicGame)
kpat (LogicGame)
kreversi (LogicGame)

needs to be checked

lincity-ng (Simulation)

maintained in the games repository, but should end up in our add-on repo/media.

anagramarama (Languages)

broken since 10.3 - and obsoleted at least by khangman

rekall (DBMS)
kile (Publishing)
scribus (Publishing)
audacity (AudioVideoEditing)
FreqTweak (AudioVideoEditing)

in the distro

Stopmotion (AudioVideoEditing)

needs to be checked

dia (FlowChart)
xFig (FlowChart)
kolorpaint (2DGraphics)
GIMP (2DGraphics)
Inkscape (2DGraphics)
Skencil (2DGraphics)
blender (3DGraphics)

in the distro

GRASS (Geographic Resources Analysis Support System)

in the geograhy repository - but has many dependencies which just can be fullfilled with including nearly all packages from this repository. Needs to be rechecked.


TaskJuggler (project management tool)
PythonCAD (Engineering)

in the distro

Note: packages which are already in the distribution (and even if they are just available via FTP) are not longer linked/aggregated into the Education buildservice repository - as this will increase the needed space and cost of build power without real benefits.
BUT:
+ the packages should be listed as they are really useful
+ packages missing on the official download DVDs (and therefore just available via FTP) should end on our add-on media to avoid that people need an online connection to install our recommended software. That's already the case for our 11.0 (and if I'm correct even 10.3) add-on.


3. The list of packages to define their categories in new page:
KLogic

"Electronic" ?

iTalc
kiosktool
kde-kids-theme
sabayon

"System or System-Management" ?

childplay

"General Learning"

eXelearning

HTML-Editors or Web-Publishing

gcompris

"General Learning"


GRAMPS

Hu? ;-)

KDissert
KSociograma
vym
semantik

"Mind regulators" ;-)
KDissert, semantik and vym are Mind Mapping Tools, Ksociograma is a tool for social networking. Perhaps the first three fit more into the "Office" Category? The last one...??? Psychology?


Any comments about new wiki page concept are welcome.
1. Program name is the same as package name
2. Level one categories are from RPM GROUPS (for easy installing)
3. Level two categories are from
http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html
(for easy and consistent browsing and finding installed application)


Also, good icons representing ages are needed to support visual age
differentiation.

On my way... ...if krish isn't faster ;-)


And the last, should wiki page include educational-related software from
the official repo and if so, how to differ them?

Yes, it should include it. And we should take care, that these packages are also listed in our patterns.
Perhaps we can add the official openSUSE logo behind packages, which are already in the official repository?


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