Hi all Refering to: http://www.opensuse-education.org/mantis/view.php?id=70 it looks like we've too many packages which are installed per default if a user adds the openSUSE-Education Add on (repository or DVD is the same). I like to give a short explanation about the current structure and the "magic" behind the patterns. -----------------------------------[edu-pattern] We currently have the following entry in the content file of the repository: RECOMMENDS pattern:education-full ^^^ this line adds the pattern file with the same name into the software proposal of YaST. you can find that pattern in the directory suse/setup/descr/ in the repository (with 11.0 the format changes and all pattern files are pasted together to one gzip'ed pattern file, so have a look at the 10.2 or 10.3 pattern to get the example: http://www.opensuse-education.org/download/repo/1.0/10.2/suse/setup/descr/ed... You can see: this pattern file _Req_uires the x11 pattern and _Rec_ommends three edu-patterns: education-desktop kids-education-desktop youth-education-desktop Now an overview about the current patterns: 1) education-desktop => Software which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. - kiosktool - sabayon - italc ^^^ generic packages which makes the live of an administrator or teacher easier in schools. 2) kids-education-desktop => Software for small kids (4-10 years) which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. - gcompris - childsplay - pysycache - ... ^^^ "real" packages for the kids 3) youth-education-desktop => Software for youths (11-14 years) which can be used in educational enviroments on client site. - LabPlot - audacity - bluefish - ... ^^^ "real" packages for older children We also have two patterns for server applications right now: - edu-server - kiwi-ltsp ^^^ those patterns are NOT selected by default. People who try to setup a server have to select them manually. All pattern files are created as normal RPM packages and are "developed" using Subversion and a simple directory and file structure. So neither adding packages nor translating the descriptions is a big deal. Some examples and information can be found here: http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Development#The_development_of_pattern_file... -----------------------------------[/edu-pattern] So I want to ask for help! * Please provide some new proposals how we can split the current patterns into smaller parts. * Which patterns and packages should be installed per default? * Which packages should be suggested ? With kind regards, Lars -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org