Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-edu (109 mails)

[Lars Vogdt <lrupp@xxxxxxx>]

Hi all

Refering to:
http://www.opensuse-education.org/mantis/view.php?id=70

it looks like we've too many packages which are installed per default if 
a user adds the openSUSE-Education Add on (repository or DVD is the 
same).

I like to give a short explanation about the current structure and 
the "magic" behind the patterns.
-----------------------------------[edu-pattern]
We currently have the following entry in the content file of the 
repository:
RECOMMENDS pattern:education-full 
^^^ this line adds the pattern file with the same name into the software 
proposal of YaST.

you can find that pattern in the directory suse/setup/descr/ in the 
repository (with 11.0 the format changes and all pattern files are 
pasted together to one gzip'ed pattern file, so have a look at the 10.2 
or 10.3 pattern to get the example:
http://www.opensuse-education.org/download/repo/1.0/10.2/suse/setup/descr/education-full-1.1-13.1.i586.pat

You can see: this pattern file _Req_uires the x11 pattern and 
_Rec_ommends three edu-patterns:
education-desktop
kids-education-desktop
youth-education-desktop

Now an overview about the current patterns:
1) education-desktop
=> Software which can be used in educational enviroments on client site.
- kiosktool
- sabayon
- italc
^^^ generic packages which makes the live of an administrator or teacher 
easier in schools.

2) kids-education-desktop
=> Software for small kids (4-10 years) which can be used in educational 
enviroments on client site.
- gcompris
- childsplay
- pysycache
- ...
^^^ "real" packages for the kids

3) youth-education-desktop
=> Software for youths (11-14 years) which can be used in educational 
enviroments on client site.
- LabPlot
- audacity
- bluefish
- ...
^^^ "real" packages for older children

We also have two patterns for server applications right now:
- edu-server
- kiwi-ltsp
^^^ those patterns are NOT selected by default. People who try to setup 
a server have to select them manually.

All pattern files are created as normal RPM packages and are "developed" 
using Subversion and a simple directory and file structure. So neither 
adding packages nor translating the descriptions is a big deal.

Some examples and information can be found here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Development#The_development_of_pattern_files

-----------------------------------[/edu-pattern]

So I want to ask for help!

* Please provide some new proposals how we can split the current 
patterns into smaller parts.
* Which patterns and packages should be installed per default?
* Which packages should be suggested ?

With kind regards,
Lars



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