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Re: [opensuse-edu] what does LTSP\thin client technology mean to you?
- From: Phil Thane <phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:47:09 +0100
- Message-id: <200707191947.09205.phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thursday 19 July 2007 17:44:26 Rodney Donovan wrote:
> Come on Phil! There is so much more than CAD out there. Truly, I know how
> you feel because some one left the idiots in charge. They can't see the
> forest for the trees. What we have here is one software package dictating
> what operating system you have to use. Really now, what we need is to
> experiment with other packages on linux. OK VariCAD works on Linux. Is it
> cheaper than AutoCad? Well then, problem solved. Maybe?
No, not really. Yes VariCAD is cheaper than AutoCAD, but then very few schools
use AutoCAD over here anyway. About 8 years ago PTC did a deal with our govt
to distribute ProDesktop free of charge to all UK secondary schools. It's not
especially good but it was a good deal, PTC got the publicity in return for
some CDs, the government paid for support and training by leaving it in the
hands of the Design & Technology Association (DATA, trade body for D&T
teachers in England and Wales). DATA charged for training and the money came
from the schools' training budgets. If you did the training your school
got 'free' software.
Now ProD is obsolete (see reply to Ian) DATA is trialling ProE in some of our
more adventurous schools, chances are it won't be free but probably highly
subsidised. DATA have already told me they aren't even considering supporting
the Linux version in schools.
I agree about other software, and as far as I can see in UK secondary schools
most of the other sujects use Office and IE for almost everything, so moving
to Linux, OO and another browser is no problem, but D&T departments are
generally the most demanding computer users in our schools. They've struggled
to master ProD, are sort of used to it now and if Linux cannot offer a simple
(preferably free) alternative it stands no chance.
It's not stopping me pushing, and in the absence of any official encouragement
I'm starting an unofficial YouthLUG in my school in September using kit
dragged out of the school skip (dumpster to US readers). I'll probably use
Edubuntu though, I gave up on SuSE with 10.1 since then my desktop and laptos
have all been Kubuntu.
--
Regards
Phil Thane
Bryn Villa
Penycoed Road
Llangollen
LL20 8LR
01978 861677
07971 087623
phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.brynvilla.llangollen.co.uk
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> Come on Phil! There is so much more than CAD out there. Truly, I know how
> you feel because some one left the idiots in charge. They can't see the
> forest for the trees. What we have here is one software package dictating
> what operating system you have to use. Really now, what we need is to
> experiment with other packages on linux. OK VariCAD works on Linux. Is it
> cheaper than AutoCad? Well then, problem solved. Maybe?
No, not really. Yes VariCAD is cheaper than AutoCAD, but then very few schools
use AutoCAD over here anyway. About 8 years ago PTC did a deal with our govt
to distribute ProDesktop free of charge to all UK secondary schools. It's not
especially good but it was a good deal, PTC got the publicity in return for
some CDs, the government paid for support and training by leaving it in the
hands of the Design & Technology Association (DATA, trade body for D&T
teachers in England and Wales). DATA charged for training and the money came
from the schools' training budgets. If you did the training your school
got 'free' software.
Now ProD is obsolete (see reply to Ian) DATA is trialling ProE in some of our
more adventurous schools, chances are it won't be free but probably highly
subsidised. DATA have already told me they aren't even considering supporting
the Linux version in schools.
I agree about other software, and as far as I can see in UK secondary schools
most of the other sujects use Office and IE for almost everything, so moving
to Linux, OO and another browser is no problem, but D&T departments are
generally the most demanding computer users in our schools. They've struggled
to master ProD, are sort of used to it now and if Linux cannot offer a simple
(preferably free) alternative it stands no chance.
It's not stopping me pushing, and in the absence of any official encouragement
I'm starting an unofficial YouthLUG in my school in September using kit
dragged out of the school skip (dumpster to US readers). I'll probably use
Edubuntu though, I gave up on SuSE with 10.1 since then my desktop and laptos
have all been Kubuntu.
--
Regards
Phil Thane
Bryn Villa
Penycoed Road
Llangollen
LL20 8LR
01978 861677
07971 087623
phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.brynvilla.llangollen.co.uk
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