As a long term user and supporter of SuSE, sadly I have to reinforce Andy's comment about Novell having lost the plot - both morally in their MS dealings, and technically with their replacement of the rock solid Yast online updater with their zen based effort. I suspect that, like me, most people who would have previously been keen for SuSE to build LTSP5 into the distro, are busy working out how to move to suppliers that they can trust to do the right thing. I've moved one LTSP setup from SuSE to Ubuntu, using the LTSP5 stuff built into Ubuntu. When I move my next LTSP installation to Ubuntu, I will use LTSP 4.2 downloaded from www.ltsp.org, as fast boot times are more important to me in this instance than the ease of running local apps. LTSP5 does make a lot of things easier, but there is a pretty high cost to pay in terms of boot times and memory on the clients. Cheers -- Phil Driscoll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org