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[opensuse-edu] what does LTSP\thin client technology mean to you?
- From: James Tremblay <jamesat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:18:17 -0400
- Message-id: <1184847497.20589.42.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I have an important question. If I told you that LTSP5 was not going to
be adopted in either openSUSE or SLE's thin client server (which only
supports those 500$ type thin clients with flash drives, like those from
Wyse and HP), would this influence your decisions about using Novell
products? Would you be less inclined to buy an SLE based agreement if
your thin client interests were only being met by Ubuntu? Would you
simply say well I need a Linux server and I already have the Ubuntu
server disk and I know how to use it so....?
I'm being told that Novell can't find a fiduciary reason to support LTSP
and I keep saying that giving us this feature means that, we can and
probably will use an SLE server to host the applications we want to go
with it, we can and probably will use e-Directory to manage our user
ID's, but if we have to support multiple technologies (Ubuntu and SLE)
we will probably shift to the one that cost us less at the desktop (both
monetarily and intellectually) simply because supporting the desktop
translates into learning to support the server very easily. Reminiscent
of the shift to MS servers from Novell servers, in my opinion Novell
lost the school server battle simply because schools don't have the time
\money to learn\support two OSes. For how many of us is the History
teacher who is good with windows XP, the guy who helps us maintain the
2003 server in that building?
Is there really no money in supporting LTSP and Education specific
products? If your answer is, "I don't really care about LTSP and it
won't effect my decisions about my Novell purchases" then ignore me, but
if the answer is "I rely on LTSP to help me put more desktops in the
classroom and I really would prefer to have it managed with my other
Novell products", then I must inform you that the likelihood of you
being able to use LTSP5 with Novell products is slim, there are two of
us working on integrating the bits and both of us are non-coders, we are
merely translating some batch scripts that we can understand and
borrowing the best parts of KIWI( a new Novell imaging technology) to
make most of it work, which leaves: local device support, network sound,
a descent disk-less boot process and much more undone and likely never
to be done.
Please respond to this list thread and any Novell employee you know, if
you want this to change.
--
James Tremblay
Director of Technology
Newmarket School District
Newmarket,NH
http://en.opensuse.org/Education
"let's make a difference"
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be adopted in either openSUSE or SLE's thin client server (which only
supports those 500$ type thin clients with flash drives, like those from
Wyse and HP), would this influence your decisions about using Novell
products? Would you be less inclined to buy an SLE based agreement if
your thin client interests were only being met by Ubuntu? Would you
simply say well I need a Linux server and I already have the Ubuntu
server disk and I know how to use it so....?
I'm being told that Novell can't find a fiduciary reason to support LTSP
and I keep saying that giving us this feature means that, we can and
probably will use an SLE server to host the applications we want to go
with it, we can and probably will use e-Directory to manage our user
ID's, but if we have to support multiple technologies (Ubuntu and SLE)
we will probably shift to the one that cost us less at the desktop (both
monetarily and intellectually) simply because supporting the desktop
translates into learning to support the server very easily. Reminiscent
of the shift to MS servers from Novell servers, in my opinion Novell
lost the school server battle simply because schools don't have the time
\money to learn\support two OSes. For how many of us is the History
teacher who is good with windows XP, the guy who helps us maintain the
2003 server in that building?
Is there really no money in supporting LTSP and Education specific
products? If your answer is, "I don't really care about LTSP and it
won't effect my decisions about my Novell purchases" then ignore me, but
if the answer is "I rely on LTSP to help me put more desktops in the
classroom and I really would prefer to have it managed with my other
Novell products", then I must inform you that the likelihood of you
being able to use LTSP5 with Novell products is slim, there are two of
us working on integrating the bits and both of us are non-coders, we are
merely translating some batch scripts that we can understand and
borrowing the best parts of KIWI( a new Novell imaging technology) to
make most of it work, which leaves: local device support, network sound,
a descent disk-less boot process and much more undone and likely never
to be done.
Please respond to this list thread and any Novell employee you know, if
you want this to change.
--
James Tremblay
Director of Technology
Newmarket School District
Newmarket,NH
http://en.opensuse.org/Education
"let's make a difference"
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