Re: [opensuse-edu] Status EDU Add on CD for openSUSE 10.3

Lars, these server packages are some of the current best of bread but would be more work to build the ERP solution. Koha is not a true LAMP app but dupliates openbiblio using perl and is very well respected. ClaSS is similar to Centre although CLaSS is very young and its feature set is still imature but it is already a true LAMP product. The three packages that would be a priority to me are Centre Moodle Openbiblio The goal I have for a School ERP is based on these three packages. These are all written in PHP, Centre merely needs MySQL porting to be truely a LAMP product and more compatible with the others, do you know of anyone in the OpenSUSE group who might be able to do this, I can write my contacts asking that it become a priority. I have already written to the core maintainers of these projects and asked if they would take code from us that would help them integrate with one another. Centre is a BIG yes, Moodle is looking at it and Openbiblio is a source forge product and they have not returned an answer to me, I would like to fork it into Centre. We will of course include any school management tools that someone wants to work with but they need to step up and work with us on the testing and integration. I will see what I can do about setting up a sabayon and kdekiosk demo for my teachers and ask them to evaluate. How about making the parent\teacher user during installation and building a student\class\child administration tool basically a less technical looking more parent\teacher featured version of yast2-users with the new settings for the sabayon or Kiosk tool? Then we could stick that right on the desktop of the parent\teacher and have that user setup as a "priveledged user" like SLED SP1 does for ZMD users, with extra privledges for adding users, updates and software packages. Just to ease your work this time through, I would have to think that just pushing Sabayon\KDEKiosk tool and yast2-users to the "parent\teacher desktop" and pointing to there "online" documentation would be a great start. p.s. I have also added http://en.opensuse.org/Education_Server_Applications and http://en.opensuse.org/Education#Example_EDU_Addon_CD with all of Jay's work on apps for SLED which of course can be moved if OpenSUSE has the storage.

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Lars Vogdt 4/11/2007 2:48 PM >>> Hi @ll

I would like to give you and update on the openSUSE Edu-Project. Feel free to comment, enhance or even add thinks I missed here... 1) Edu-Packages for the Desktop 2) Edu-Packages for the Server 3) The education add on CD for 10.3 1) Packages for the Desktop http://software.opensuse.org/download/Education:/desktop/ lists around 70 new packages. Not all of them are desktop applications - some of them are just needed to run the desktop applications. Some others are already part of the openSUSE distribution. I currently see: wxMaxima: Graphical User Interface for the maxima Computer Algebra System yacas: YACAS is an easy to use, general purpose Computer Algebra System. klogic: Digital circiut simulation ksudoku: Generate and Solve Sudoku Puzzles in 2D or 3D tuxmath: Tux Math - educational math game noteedit: Score Editor with Extensive MIDI and MusiXTeX Functionality maxima: Maxima Symbolic Computation Program/Computer Algebra System octave: A High Level Programming Language kdeedu3: different Education Applications tuxpaint: Drawing Program for Young Children celestia: OpenGL Space Simulator stellarium: Astronomical Sky Simulator James has updated the http://en.opensuse.org/Education_Desktop_Applications site (thanks!) - but I see some "red" links (meens no wikisite) for some of the listed applications. I like to see more "blue" links to pages like http://en.opensuse.org/KStars (thanks to Rajko!). What do you think? Sarah, is this something you can support? Can someone have a look at http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Education and come back here with a "priorisation list" what applications should be packaged next? 2) Packages for the Server http://software.opensuse.org/download/Education:/server/ lists around 90 packages. But most of them are subpackages. dansguardian: Content filtering web proxy ClaSS: ClaSS stands for ClaSS Student System selflinux: German Linux tutorial squid: Squid WWW proxy server (containing patches for dansguardian) Centre: SIS-Student Information System koha: Koha is a full-featured open-source ILS (Integrated Library System). openbiblio: OpenBiblio is an easy to use, automated library system I need someone who can tell me something about the differences between: * ClaSS vs. Centre * koha vs. openbiblio What do these Applications? Which application should be "preferred"? 3) The education add on CD for 10.3 This would be the first community add on CD for openSUSE 10.3! So we can and should show the other people outsite the benefits they can get with such Add on CDs (additional packages, change the installation workflow, add yast-modules, ...). So perhaps even other projects or vendors start to distribute such add on medias. Current action items for me - but if someone would take care of some of them or has better ideas I can do other things (-: + Search for a KDE and GNOME Theme (Desktop layout, Wallpaper, Icons) which is more children friendly than the current default one. Think about children < 10 years old). For KDE we have a first package using the "kids-theme" from everaldo.com - but we have to check the license first bevore we can use it. Come up with better ideas... ..or have a look at the screenshot: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+4+Kids?content=9144 + We need KIOSK-Tool- (KDE) and Sabayon- (GNOME) Templates for children. Note: kiosktool and sabayon are still part of the distribution - so we just need someone who "clicks through" the application and decides which restrictions are useful for children and which are not. With the tools you can restrict the access for the desktop (for example: changing the wallpaper, starting a terminal, starting applications at all, ...). For more details see http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/sabayon http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/ + Create a first "Edu-Pattern" for the normal 10.3 installation Images. This EDU-Pattern should contain the "normal" packages, already on the media - and also the additional software in the buildservice. So people who enable the buildservice-repository or add the Education Add on CD would get all the software installed. Missing education packages can be added to the Wishlist: http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Education The current pattern will include all the files listed above in 1 & 2. + Perhaps (if time permits) create an additional YaST-Module: This module will start during installation of a PC. The user should be able to: * create a new user => his child * choose one of the three(?) settings: 1) child < 7 years (pre school) 2) child 7-14 years (primary school) 3) child 14> years Depending on these settings, YaST2 should: * enable one of three Kiosk-Modes (see above) for the new user * configure a transparent Proxy and Internet-Filter (allow whitelisted sites only, deny blacklisted websites only, allow everything - depending on the age of the child?) which can be configured by the parent later (YaST2-Modul for dansguardian or squidguard needed) * configure the Firewall settings for IRC and other tools using Internet connections - depending on the age of the child. I hope that we can create a really good add on media with a great impact to all educational areas :-) But to do this we need to work together. I'm comming more from the technical site - I need additional people coming from the education site who tell me what is really needed and what could be a good solution. So feel free to write me an email or just "ping" me on IRC#opensuse-project (my nickname is kl_eisbaer). Greetings, Lars Disclaimer: I'm "just working" for SUSE/Novell - I'm a developer and not a project manager nor a teacher (but become a father in the next weeks ;-). I like open source, I like kids and I like openSUSE - so I like to support the openSUSE education project as much as my time permits. But normaly I work on other things. So please don't get hurt if my response times are sometimes a bit slow... ;-) -- Lars Vogdt Autobuild Team SUSE Linux Products GmbH GF: Markus Rex Nuernberg, Germany HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org