Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-edu (26 mails)

[James Tremblay <jamesat@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 11:51 +0100, Lars Rupp wrote:
> Am Mi 27.12.2006 15:13 schrieb James Tremblay <jamesat@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > + develop some special education patterns (a list of packages,
> > > marked
> > > for installation during the installation-phase of the new
> > > distribution)
> > 
> > I'm not sure we should bother AJ about adding this stuff to the
> > "mainline", I always thought it would be separate, unless it's a post
> > installation option in Yast from either our repo's or the edu-cd.
> 
> Every time when I install an openSUSE distribution (and, yes: I do this
> more than once for every Release ;-) I'm searching for the educational
> packages which are still on the media.
> Some of them (like "kdeedu") are easy to find via the search option in
> the detailed package manager view), some of them (like "drgeo" for
> example) are more hidden and someone must know them bevore he can find
> them.
> I think AJ is the last person who says "no" if we send him a list of
> packages for an extra "education" pattern.

Ok, now i'm up to speed , didn't know those packages still existed in
the "mainline". which now makes a lot of sense to to have an install
pattern.
> 
> > I would put it as a default bookmark on the desktop like they used to
> > do
> > with the SuSE home page in SLE9 
> 
> Yes, we can add a bookmark to the wiki site, too. But I think without
> any software in mind, no normal user whould realize that a normal
> openSUSE distribution comes with many educational packages "out of the
> box".
> 
> 
> > I'll take that as a PLAN! 
> 
> Then we should add it to the wiki. And begin with part one... ;-)
> 
> 
> > Should we make time to collaborate on what the wiki says? how about
> > our
> > own IRC channel, #opensuse-edu ?
> Huh! Many thinks to do. I don't have the time to work on every place :-(
> But perhaps we can find some people who have different interests and
> like to maintain thinks like an IRC channel?


I meant just you and I, :)

> I think you can maintain the wiki pages - so we should discuss if we
> need more "maintainers" for the other thinks like "packages" (should be
> a packager with access to the build service), "mailinglist" and so on.
> 
> But please: not more chiefs than indians ;-)
> 
> 
> > I dropped the core set of "admin" packages in the /server BS folder
> > but
> > they all need setup scripts and spec files added, another learning
> > curve
> > for me.
> 
> I can help you - and many people on the buildservice and packagers
> mailinglist, too. But we are not so fast between the years... ;-)

not looking for speed, just greatness :)
> 
> 
> > I don't have a clue as to how to separate the "BS" channel from
> > the "installation" channel. Maybe I should have put them in my /home
> > BS
> > folder and gave you permission's ? 
> 
> Good question. I think we should discuss this on the buildservice
> mailing list and come up with a solution in the wiki.
> 
> 
> > Do you have a regular time we can IRC?
> 
> Hm. Good question...
> 
> 
> > I was wondering if someone could do some official "wooing" on the
> > people
> > at http://www.tux4kids.com/ to join in? I posted about us in their
> > forum. I was hoping that we could get lots of help from Edu
> > communities
> > like them.
> > I will do what is asked of me to make this happen, so please feel free
> > to ask.
> 
> I think helping each other is always a good point. But we should show
> others what they can get as benefit from us before we ask them to
> contribute.
> 
> Perhaps as you might know: we decided not to have a own "openSUSE" Forum
> because other people have forums out there which are much better and
> which are online since a couple of time. So perhaps we should look out
> (see my first post, position 1 ;-) and see what others always have - and
> provide only those thinks which are not represented enough in the world
> wide web.

Nicely said!
> 
> Currently my impression is that there is enough educational software -
> but not enough documentation about it. Perhaps this is wrong. Perhaps we
> can contact the authors of some software packages and ask if we can
> assist in documentation...
> 
> And we should ask the people on edubuntu, site@school, Schoolforge, ...
> (who knows more?) if we can work together. Who likes to ask them?
> 
> Greetings,
> Lars
> 
> 
> 

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