Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-edu (26 mails)

[Lars Rupp <lrupp@xxxxxxx>]

Am Mi 27.12.2006 15:13 schrieb James Tremblay <jamesat@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > + develop some special education patterns (a list of packages,
> > marked
> > for installation during the installation-phase of the new
> > distribution)
> 
> I'm not sure we should bother AJ about adding this stuff to the
> "mainline", I always thought it would be separate, unless it's a post
> installation option in Yast from either our repo's or the edu-cd.

Every time when I install an openSUSE distribution (and, yes: I do this
more than once for every Release ;-) I'm searching for the educational
packages which are still on the media.
Some of them (like "kdeedu") are easy to find via the search option in
the detailed package manager view), some of them (like "drgeo" for
example) are more hidden and someone must know them bevore he can find
them.
I think AJ is the last person who says "no" if we send him a list of
packages for an extra "education" pattern.

> I would put it as a default bookmark on the desktop like they used to
> do
> with the SuSE home page in SLE9 

Yes, we can add a bookmark to the wiki site, too. But I think without
any software in mind, no normal user whould realize that a normal
openSUSE distribution comes with many educational packages "out of the
box".


> I'll take that as a PLAN! 

Then we should add it to the wiki. And begin with part one... ;-)


> Should we make time to collaborate on what the wiki says? how about
> our
> own IRC channel, #opensuse-edu ?

Huh! Many thinks to do. I don't have the time to work on every place :-(
But perhaps we can find some people who have different interests and
like to maintain thinks like an IRC channel?
I think you can maintain the wiki pages - so we should discuss if we
need more "maintainers" for the other thinks like "packages" (should be
a packager with access to the build service), "mailinglist" and so on.

But please: not more chiefs than indians ;-)


> I dropped the core set of "admin" packages in the /server BS folder
> but
> they all need setup scripts and spec files added, another learning
> curve
> for me.

I can help you - and many people on the buildservice and packagers
mailinglist, too. But we are not so fast between the years... ;-)


> I don't have a clue as to how to separate the "BS" channel from
> the "installation" channel. Maybe I should have put them in my /home
> BS
> folder and gave you permission's ? 

Good question. I think we should discuss this on the buildservice
mailing list and come up with a solution in the wiki.


> Do you have a regular time we can IRC?

Hm. Good question...


> I was wondering if someone could do some official "wooing" on the
> people
> at http://www.tux4kids.com/ to join in? I posted about us in their
> forum. I was hoping that we could get lots of help from Edu
> communities
> like them.
> I will do what is asked of me to make this happen, so please feel free
> to ask.

I think helping each other is always a good point. But we should show
others what they can get as benefit from us before we ask them to
contribute.

Perhaps as you might know: we decided not to have a own "openSUSE" Forum
because other people have forums out there which are much better and
which are online since a couple of time. So perhaps we should look out
(see my first post, position 1 ;-) and see what others always have - and
provide only those thinks which are not represented enough in the world
wide web.

Currently my impression is that there is enough educational software -
but not enough documentation about it. Perhaps this is wrong. Perhaps we
can contact the authors of some software packages and ask if we can
assist in documentation...

And we should ask the people on edubuntu, site@school, Schoolforge, ...
(who knows more?) if we can work together. Who likes to ask them?

Greetings,
Lars



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