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Re: [opensuse-edu] Re: [opensuse-project] package wishlists
- From: Lars Rupp <lrupp@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:44:37 +0100
- Message-id: <200612271244.38101.lrupp@xxxxxxx>
Hi James
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 05:32, James Tremblay wrote (shortened):
> I'd like to turn those two "channels" into the most trusted
> education software sites in the world!
I think we should decide between:
- "build service" channels (containing always the "bleeding edge"
software) and
- "installation" channels (containing well tested software for
endusers).
Pointing endusers to channels with sometime broken packages doesn't make
sense to me.
Yes: the buildservice should provide an additional "Administration
Frontend" for Repository Administrators, so they can decide when a
(new) package will get in an external installation repository for
endusers, but at this time this Frontend is not there...
So my current personal "Roadmap" looks like:
1) Find out what we need:
+ test the current software packages we have on the distro => file
bugreports if there is something we can do better
+ test other software packages (like new ones available in the build
service or completely different ones)
2) Bring it together:
+ come up with some lists on en.opensuse.org/Education which contain
recommendations classified by childrens age or "subject" resp. "area of
interest". So parents and children get a first contact point to look
for available (and perhaps missing) linux education-software.
+ develop some special education patterns (a list of packages, marked
for installation during the installation-phase of the new distribution)
for installation sources. They can be splittet in the same categories
like the ones in the wiki. So a first set of patterns can perhaps be
placed on the next openSUSE 10.3 and endusers can just select a pattern
like "educational software for children from 4-10 years" and get all
software which is described in the wiki. (We can create some tables in
the wiki and place links to a more detailed description (and perhaps
even a curriculum) of every package there.)
3) Enhance it:
+ With the patterns and a hughe amount of good packages, we can start an
own "Edu-CD" like edubuntu - if this is necessary. But I think this
should be something at the end of a long way.
If we create a good starting point for new customers, who can get
1. information (which software should I install for my children)
2. packages ("just one click away")
3. useful instructions for "the first time" they try the packages
and all of these looking like a charm - I think we can do a very good
job - and we need only a few packagers. What we need most are
some "Beta-Testers" who test the available packages and write articles
about them in the wiki.
Thats just my two cents worth - what do you think?
Lars
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On Tuesday 19 December 2006 05:32, James Tremblay wrote (shortened):
> I'd like to turn those two "channels" into the most trusted
> education software sites in the world!
I think we should decide between:
- "build service" channels (containing always the "bleeding edge"
software) and
- "installation" channels (containing well tested software for
endusers).
Pointing endusers to channels with sometime broken packages doesn't make
sense to me.
Yes: the buildservice should provide an additional "Administration
Frontend" for Repository Administrators, so they can decide when a
(new) package will get in an external installation repository for
endusers, but at this time this Frontend is not there...
So my current personal "Roadmap" looks like:
1) Find out what we need:
+ test the current software packages we have on the distro => file
bugreports if there is something we can do better
+ test other software packages (like new ones available in the build
service or completely different ones)
2) Bring it together:
+ come up with some lists on en.opensuse.org/Education which contain
recommendations classified by childrens age or "subject" resp. "area of
interest". So parents and children get a first contact point to look
for available (and perhaps missing) linux education-software.
+ develop some special education patterns (a list of packages, marked
for installation during the installation-phase of the new distribution)
for installation sources. They can be splittet in the same categories
like the ones in the wiki. So a first set of patterns can perhaps be
placed on the next openSUSE 10.3 and endusers can just select a pattern
like "educational software for children from 4-10 years" and get all
software which is described in the wiki. (We can create some tables in
the wiki and place links to a more detailed description (and perhaps
even a curriculum) of every package there.)
3) Enhance it:
+ With the patterns and a hughe amount of good packages, we can start an
own "Edu-CD" like edubuntu - if this is necessary. But I think this
should be something at the end of a long way.
If we create a good starting point for new customers, who can get
1. information (which software should I install for my children)
2. packages ("just one click away")
3. useful instructions for "the first time" they try the packages
and all of these looking like a charm - I think we can do a very good
job - and we need only a few packagers. What we need most are
some "Beta-Testers" who test the available packages and write articles
about them in the wiki.
Thats just my two cents worth - what do you think?
Lars
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