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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] article on GNU/Linux in schools and universities
- From: Ian Lynch <ian.lynch@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:46:53 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <1144918275.3739.35.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 03:02 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Maybe you should join then :-) SF-UK evolved from this list and its much
> > more active.
>
> I don't think so --- my time dabbling with Linux within compulsory education
> ended five years ago; that was little more than helping the ITC technician
> setup squid during my lunch hours whilst in sixth form.
>
> I'd be a duck out of water if I joined.
Curious as to why you are on this list then since its largely the same
issues.
You say there is nothing that can be done to get change. Things are
changing, albeit slower than we might like. The changes are hard work
and nothing worth having generally comes easy. Attitudes are changing -
I now have regular meetings with BECTA on behalf of the OSS community,
that in itself is a significant change - but there is still a long way
to go.
In the words of Ghandi
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
you win.
We are at different stages of this in different applications. Apache is
a winner, Linux at the desktop in schools is probably spread through the
ignore, laugh and fight stages. The use of Open Standards is certainly a
high profile theme with BECTA these days but there is massive inertia in
the system. Even with committed people now its going to take years,
there never was a quick fix option. If we just give up and say its all
impossible it'll just take longer.
--
Ian Lynch
www.theINGOTs.org
www.opendocumentfellowship.org
www.schoolforge.org.uk
> --- Ian Lynch <ian.lynch@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Maybe you should join then :-) SF-UK evolved from this list and its much
> > more active.
>
> I don't think so --- my time dabbling with Linux within compulsory education
> ended five years ago; that was little more than helping the ITC technician
> setup squid during my lunch hours whilst in sixth form.
>
> I'd be a duck out of water if I joined.
Curious as to why you are on this list then since its largely the same
issues.
You say there is nothing that can be done to get change. Things are
changing, albeit slower than we might like. The changes are hard work
and nothing worth having generally comes easy. Attitudes are changing -
I now have regular meetings with BECTA on behalf of the OSS community,
that in itself is a significant change - but there is still a long way
to go.
In the words of Ghandi
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
you win.
We are at different stages of this in different applications. Apache is
a winner, Linux at the desktop in schools is probably spread through the
ignore, laugh and fight stages. The use of Open Standards is certainly a
high profile theme with BECTA these days but there is massive inertia in
the system. Even with committed people now its going to take years,
there never was a quick fix option. If we just give up and say its all
impossible it'll just take longer.
--
Ian Lynch
www.theINGOTs.org
www.opendocumentfellowship.org
www.schoolforge.org.uk
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