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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] straw poll
- From: "Paul Graydon" <graydpau@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:05:49 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <43994857.15177.109F30@xxxxxxxxx>
I've had similar, my hosts have a RHES4 solution running I believe. My personal site was fine but
another that I had (for a large gaming clan) hosted on one of their servers just 'disappeared'. It
took me a while to even get more than a "we're investigating" out of them, all the whilst I was
fielding questions from about three or four hundred gamers who were all blaming me (naturally).
Eventually my hosts aknowledged that they'd been hacked and were trying to ensure they'd got the
systems locked down more securely this time which was what was taking the time. They did refund me
for the down time though, which was better than I've heard from some.
My hosts are a little on the unusual side so far as practices go, its not been unusual for me to go
to sleep with the website running on a php5 server and wake up the next morning with error e-mails
as my php5 XML parsing script failed to work, only to discover the server was now running php4...
and no communicatino from the hosts about it at all!
About all I can say is that in my opinion servers getting hacked/cracked is inevitable. No matter
how good you are at securing a server there are always liable to be new security holes found, and
people trying to use them as soon as they're found. About the only thing you can really do is just
insure that you're always backing up your site/servers regularly so that you're in a position where
you can recover the site without too much stress.
On 9 Dec 2005 at 8:32, linuxgirlie wrote:
> Ahhh,
>
> You mean hacked as in crack...sorry got confused there!!
>
> Well I have stupidly had my hosting server (hosted by
> flexihostings.net) hacked several times but never needed a re-install,
> but these where just website hacks, the company once had the server
> hacked big time, but it was then down for a day while they sorted it
> out, they tend to always be doing maintenence on it so I assume it
> must be pretty secure at the moment!!
>
> Never had to re-install it myself though.
>
>
> Jo
>
> On 12/8/05, Paul Taylor <ptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 December 2005 20:45, linuxgirlie wrote:
> > > Oh, not a server but my home linux computer gets re-installed all the
> > > time, luckly I have a server!! I just love to fiddle!!
> > >
> > Indeed, that's a given with Linux, especially with so many tasty distros to
> > try.
> > > At work though 2 of my 8 servers need re-installing as they are
> > > running Mandrake 10 and you can no longer get updates!!
> > >
> > Not quite what I had in mind. I have an ISP running all of my client web
> > sites on a Fedora server (I run a web hosting and design company with my 6th
> > form as part of their AVCE - now GCE Applied). It locked up on Tuesday as
> > all the sites run Mambo/MySQL. After a lot of hair pulling, shouting etc at
> > my ISP they sent me a message today that the server had been hacked
> > "probably" and that I had to ftp all the files somewhere and re-install the
> > server OS. I am appalled and I wonder if this is something common with
> > "reputable" ISPs?
> >
> > Paul
> > > Jo
> > >
> > > On 12/8/05, Paul Taylor <ptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > HI all:
> > > >
> > > > How many people on the list have had a Linux server hacked to the point
> > > > that it needs to be reinstalled?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > > --
> > > > Sizofik a Ninila' Siyakhona? $B%]!<%k (B
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > --
> > > Please do not send me Microsoft Office attachments.
> > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > >
> > > Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk
> > > Karoshi@Home: http://www.karoshiathome.org.uk
> >
> > --
> > Sizofik a Ninila' Siyakhona? $B%]!<%k (B
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Please do not send me Microsoft Office attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
> Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk
> Karoshi@Home: http://www.karoshiathome.org.uk
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
>
>
-----
Paul Graydon
Network Technician
Haywards Heath College
http://www.hhc.ac.uk (01444) 456281
"Joy is not in things; it is in us." Richard Wagner
another that I had (for a large gaming clan) hosted on one of their servers just 'disappeared'. It
took me a while to even get more than a "we're investigating" out of them, all the whilst I was
fielding questions from about three or four hundred gamers who were all blaming me (naturally).
Eventually my hosts aknowledged that they'd been hacked and were trying to ensure they'd got the
systems locked down more securely this time which was what was taking the time. They did refund me
for the down time though, which was better than I've heard from some.
My hosts are a little on the unusual side so far as practices go, its not been unusual for me to go
to sleep with the website running on a php5 server and wake up the next morning with error e-mails
as my php5 XML parsing script failed to work, only to discover the server was now running php4...
and no communicatino from the hosts about it at all!
About all I can say is that in my opinion servers getting hacked/cracked is inevitable. No matter
how good you are at securing a server there are always liable to be new security holes found, and
people trying to use them as soon as they're found. About the only thing you can really do is just
insure that you're always backing up your site/servers regularly so that you're in a position where
you can recover the site without too much stress.
On 9 Dec 2005 at 8:32, linuxgirlie wrote:
> Ahhh,
>
> You mean hacked as in crack...sorry got confused there!!
>
> Well I have stupidly had my hosting server (hosted by
> flexihostings.net) hacked several times but never needed a re-install,
> but these where just website hacks, the company once had the server
> hacked big time, but it was then down for a day while they sorted it
> out, they tend to always be doing maintenence on it so I assume it
> must be pretty secure at the moment!!
>
> Never had to re-install it myself though.
>
>
> Jo
>
> On 12/8/05, Paul Taylor <ptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 December 2005 20:45, linuxgirlie wrote:
> > > Oh, not a server but my home linux computer gets re-installed all the
> > > time, luckly I have a server!! I just love to fiddle!!
> > >
> > Indeed, that's a given with Linux, especially with so many tasty distros to
> > try.
> > > At work though 2 of my 8 servers need re-installing as they are
> > > running Mandrake 10 and you can no longer get updates!!
> > >
> > Not quite what I had in mind. I have an ISP running all of my client web
> > sites on a Fedora server (I run a web hosting and design company with my 6th
> > form as part of their AVCE - now GCE Applied). It locked up on Tuesday as
> > all the sites run Mambo/MySQL. After a lot of hair pulling, shouting etc at
> > my ISP they sent me a message today that the server had been hacked
> > "probably" and that I had to ftp all the files somewhere and re-install the
> > server OS. I am appalled and I wonder if this is something common with
> > "reputable" ISPs?
> >
> > Paul
> > > Jo
> > >
> > > On 12/8/05, Paul Taylor <ptaylor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > HI all:
> > > >
> > > > How many people on the list have had a Linux server hacked to the point
> > > > that it needs to be reinstalled?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > > --
> > > > Sizofik a Ninila' Siyakhona? $B%]!<%k (B
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > --
> > > Please do not send me Microsoft Office attachments.
> > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > >
> > > Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk
> > > Karoshi@Home: http://www.karoshiathome.org.uk
> >
> > --
> > Sizofik a Ninila' Siyakhona? $B%]!<%k (B
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Please do not send me Microsoft Office attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
> Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk
> Karoshi@Home: http://www.karoshiathome.org.uk
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
>
>
-----
Paul Graydon
Network Technician
Haywards Heath College
http://www.hhc.ac.uk (01444) 456281
"Joy is not in things; it is in us." Richard Wagner
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