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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Automatic Updates
- From: "Alex Brett" <alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:55:13 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <3FA7F5A3.4457.10BFB8@localhost>
I would have to agree with you - when we first started using a linux
system, Red Hat was not as much of a commercial company as they
seem to be now if you know what I mean. It was bad enough when to
get free updates you had to fill in surveys - I was just about to pay for a
years subscription when I found out about them cutting support so I am
a bit annoyed now.
>From what people have said I think I'm going to have to do an
evaluation of Suse and Debian and see what works best with what this
system does.
Thanks for your help!
Alex Brett
alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 4 Nov 2003 at 10:10, ICT Support Officer wrote:
> Basically, I am not in favour of Redhat distribution as I see it as
> Microsoft of Linux world. They seem to have some kind of monopoly. I wrote
> to them few months ago to see whether they had any kind of committment to
> education like Sun microsystems have with their Staroffice (which is free to
> education). They did not even bother to reply even though I repeated my
> query several times. I don't wish to go on about them but in my experience
> with all major Linux distributions I found SUSE to be the best in terms of
> cost, support and comittment to education. I do use Mandrake as well on one
> of my servers but Mandrake appear to be a problematic at times.
>
> Suse does have live update facility but never checked whether it has
> automatic update facility, as I prefer to do updates manually myself.
>
> regards
>
> Mustafa Gural
> Canon Palmer Catholic School
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Brett" <alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <suse-linux-uk-schools@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Automatic Updates
>
>
> > I have been using Red Hat Linux (8.0) on a server in a prep school and
> > had been using the Red Hat Network to keep it up to date security wise
> > etc.
> >
> > Now I find out that Red Hat are discontinuing support and updates for
> > the basic Red Hat Linux (8.0 end of December and 9.0 end of April) I
> > am having to look for another distribution :(
> >
> > Basically, does anybody have any experience with
> > SUSE/Mandrake/Debian/any other suitable distro of automating
> > updates - I guess I could write a script to download them from an ftp
> > and run them etc etc - I was just wondering if anybody knows if any
> > other distro has updates integrated.
> >
> > This is important because I am not at this school much so if it isn't
> > done unattended automatically then most of the time it won't get done
> > (as the machine is currently just providing the firewall and web services
> > so is basically left to run) which is obviously quite a security risk :| .
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Alex Brett
> > alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
>
>
system, Red Hat was not as much of a commercial company as they
seem to be now if you know what I mean. It was bad enough when to
get free updates you had to fill in surveys - I was just about to pay for a
years subscription when I found out about them cutting support so I am
a bit annoyed now.
>From what people have said I think I'm going to have to do an
evaluation of Suse and Debian and see what works best with what this
system does.
Thanks for your help!
Alex Brett
alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 4 Nov 2003 at 10:10, ICT Support Officer wrote:
> Basically, I am not in favour of Redhat distribution as I see it as
> Microsoft of Linux world. They seem to have some kind of monopoly. I wrote
> to them few months ago to see whether they had any kind of committment to
> education like Sun microsystems have with their Staroffice (which is free to
> education). They did not even bother to reply even though I repeated my
> query several times. I don't wish to go on about them but in my experience
> with all major Linux distributions I found SUSE to be the best in terms of
> cost, support and comittment to education. I do use Mandrake as well on one
> of my servers but Mandrake appear to be a problematic at times.
>
> Suse does have live update facility but never checked whether it has
> automatic update facility, as I prefer to do updates manually myself.
>
> regards
>
> Mustafa Gural
> Canon Palmer Catholic School
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Brett" <alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <suse-linux-uk-schools@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Automatic Updates
>
>
> > I have been using Red Hat Linux (8.0) on a server in a prep school and
> > had been using the Red Hat Network to keep it up to date security wise
> > etc.
> >
> > Now I find out that Red Hat are discontinuing support and updates for
> > the basic Red Hat Linux (8.0 end of December and 9.0 end of April) I
> > am having to look for another distribution :(
> >
> > Basically, does anybody have any experience with
> > SUSE/Mandrake/Debian/any other suitable distro of automating
> > updates - I guess I could write a script to download them from an ftp
> > and run them etc etc - I was just wondering if anybody knows if any
> > other distro has updates integrated.
> >
> > This is important because I am not at this school much so if it isn't
> > done unattended automatically then most of the time it won't get done
> > (as the machine is currently just providing the firewall and web services
> > so is basically left to run) which is obviously quite a security risk :| .
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Alex Brett
> > alex.brett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxx
> > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
>
>
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