Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-edu (171 mails)

[garry saddington <garry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday 27 November 2003 15:53, John Dean wrote:
> On Thursday 27 November 2003 14:50, Chris Puttick wrote:
>
> Am I correct in assuming that you guys actually teach kids to use a
> Wordprocessor. Surely, your time would be better spent teaching the
> rudiments of programming. Would you believe that I have never been taught a
> single thing about the use of any any application from the multitude of
> Office Suites. The Help files and tutorials have always been my friend not
> the class room

Just read the nonsense that is the KS3 strategy for iCT
http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/keystage3/strands/?strand=ICT
regards
garry

>
> > The big one is inclusion; all students in the school benefit because
> > everyone can freely use OO.org in the school or at home, regardless of
> > their financial situation.
> >
> > If they are not employed by MS or a shareholder, the above should work.
> >
> > If you want to get another support to your argument, try this: history
> > tells us the dominant player in any emerging technology sector *never*
> > remains dominant: Remington were once the world's number one supplier of
> > typewriters; Sony once dominated television supply (either direct or by
> > CRT supply); Novell were the name in SME file and print servers;
> > Netscape was the only web browser anyone serious ever used; and of
> > course WordPerfect was once the word processor of choice. Training a
> > child to use a set of packages that, even if MS retains their dominance
> > until that child leaves higher education, will be changed beyond all
> > recognition seems pointless. It is highly unlikely that a Microsoft
> > world will continue; to give the child the best chance, they need
> > transferable skills.
> >
> > (for references on the above, see any site about history of science and
> > technology)
> >
> > On the open file formats, my partner is the absolute expert (archives
> > and records management). I'll get her input to you ASAP.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Johnson [mailto:johnsonmlw@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 27 November 2003 14:14
> > To: SuSe
> > Subject: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Open file formats and idiology
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A rallying cry for some assistance in a scary world.
> >
> > We're thinking of replacing MS Office here (97) with
> > Oo.o 1.1 (to be honest, it's going to happen!). I've
> > received a letter from a parent who is "alarmed" that
> > we may be considering any alternatives to Microsoft,
> > expressing how important it is for her child to be in
> > a Microsoft environment because of the real world (I'm paraphrasing -
> > not her words).
> >
> > I'm arguing along three lines...
> >
> > *Practicality (cost/budget/product features).
> >
> > *Educationally (we're teachers not trainers)
> >
> > *Idiologically (free thinking, open standards and
> > specifically open file formats).
> >
> > Could anyone point me to some web resources for the
> > definition of "educating" rather than "training" that
> > would enhance my point. And also resources that
> > support the case for "open file formats" versus
> > proprietory (and thus I suppose opensource in general
> > versus proprietory - although maybe this wouldn't
> > directly help as we're at least "looking at Star
> > Office". Hmm). The more professional the body of any
> > report's author, the better I suppose (do Becta cover
> > this stuff?). Any articles at all would be great.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --
> > Matt Johnson
> >
> >
> >
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