Hi following recent discussion of icewm, I decided to install on my AMD 500 with 128mb memory, I am currently using rhl 7,1 with the 2.4.2 kernel (i think) optimised for the k6 processor, anyway after installing and typing the starting icewm script (.Xclients) which comes with the online documents, and set this to 755. I can't seem to start by default, at present I can goto failsafe which is a xscreen with an xterm from here I can type icewm. The only problem here is that if I then close the xterm down it kills icewm at the same time, (I know why this is), Can someone please point me in the direction of the file to edit in order to set icewm to default for a normal user, with the login it remembers the last window manager used by a particular user, (for root it can stay as kde), thanks Paul Sutton