Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-contrib (154 mails)

[Michal Seben <mseben@xxxxxxx>]

Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
>   
> > At Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:17:36 +0200,
> > Michal Seben wrote:
> >     
> > > Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > >       
> > > > Michal Seben wrote:
> > > >   
> > > >         
> > > > > Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> > > > >           
> > > > > > >         
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > > qtractor is a jack application and it just makes implicit use of the
> > > > > > jackd auto-start feature ie. it tries to start jackd if it's not up and
> > > > > > running atm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > however, afaict, if pulseaudio is taking over the soundcard device,
> > > > > > jackd won't have a chance to start and qtractor or anyother jack
> > > > > > application for that matter will complain ie. won't work either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > all that to say that there's nothing blocking qtractor (or any other
> > > > > > jack application) to be included in any distro, opensuse included (which
> > > > > > is my distro of choice btw)--until now, and ever since released from its
> > > > > > stealth-mode project status, qtractor has been provided by the great
> > > > > > packman repository, with just minutes delay after my own public releases
> > > > > > which i do also provide my own opensuse rpms (opensuse 11.1 based but
> > > > > > fully featured ntl:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers
> > > > > >   
> > > > > >       
> > > > > >             
> > > > > hello Rui
> > > > >
> > > > > I create wiki, which could help with pulseaudio issues with qtractor on
> > > > > suse see http://en.opensuse.org/Qtractor, I know that current issues
> > > > > with jackd are not caused by qtractor
> > > > > I only wan't to know if we could move qtractor from project home:rncbc
> > > > > to project contrib, see http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib
> > > > > I know, it's already in packman, but not every user use it , and I think
> > > > > all greats app's should be in factory or contrib and not spread all over
> > > > > the different repositories
> > > > > If you are unsure, I could move qtractor to contrib and also I coud be
> > > > > maintainer of this package in contrib
> > > > >     
> > > > >           
> > > > Well, if you can be the maintainer, why not in FACTORY from the
> > > > beginning?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Takashi
> > > >   
> > > >         
> > > ok, no problem, I could add qtractor to Factory and I could maintain it,
> > > but could be added to Factory package which doesn't work in some cases ?
> > > (I mean when you after default installation start app which use
> > > pulseaudio + start qtractor  one of them didn't work)
> > >       
> > There are tons of packages that require special setups :)
> >
> > One could argue whether the desktop file should be provided as is,
> > though.  If any, we could add a pre-run check whether jack is running
> > or so.  But, IMO, as long as it causes a critical error silently  but
> > just pops up an error dialog or so, this is no big problem...
> >
> >     
>
> i have a suggestion: what if the qtractor.desktop file issues command as
> `pasuspender qtractor` ?
>
> that should apply also, by all means, to qjackctl.desktop or any other
> pure jack application already in factory (eg. jamin, jack-rack, jackEQ,
> freqtweak)
>
> cheers
>   
looks ok for me, I also added qtractor to Factory and I will update
desktop file as you sugested

thanks



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