Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-buildservice (266 mails)

[Martin Mohring <martin.mohring@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

John Kelly wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:42:04 +0100, Martin Mohring
> <martin.mohring@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>   
> > If "self hosting" and "minimal" is the issue here, than you always have
> > the option to install a local buildservice on your machines. OBS is even
> > opensource, so feel free to improve the "slow algorithms" and the "buggy
> > code", that results in a "borked" service. We are heavily looking for
> > developers and testers in this area.
> >     
>
> To work for free, while you earn a salary?  I will be happy to hear a
> job offer which includes a competitive salary.
>   
But that makes it neccesary that you tell us what is your qualification,
and what you would like to be :-)
>   
> > Otherwise, if it is a service that is commonly used, it has to serve
> > many needs. So individual needs may not be 100% satisfied.
> >     
>
> You miss the point.  A minimal self hosting repo would be useful to a
> wide audience, not just a few.
>
> It seems to me, OBS developers are defensive of their own turf, and do
> not see the big picture.
>   
Please explain me, what turf do the OBS developers defend.
> The scheduling "power" Adrian mentioned is academic; the reality is:
> OBS is TOO SLOW.
>   
This is a relative thing. TOO SLOW towards what measure.
> Better code is not the only solution.  You need a better practical
> approach.  Split the big opensuse project into smaller sub projects.
> That may not improve scheduling speed, but think beyond the code.  
>
>   
Also here: according to what technical requirements and what measure?
> If people won't use opensuse/OBS, because the repo is 3000+ big, and
> unwieldy, there's no point of working hard on code.  Try not to hide
> from yourselves, the fundamental needs which are obvious to everyone
> else.
>   
Thats all relative: I also want a car that needs only 1l / 100km, can
drive lightspeed and costs nothing. But nobody yet fulfilled my
practical need. Nevertheless, cars that do not fulfil this seem to be of
practical relevance.

Martin

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