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Re: [opensuse-buildservice] Easy xbuntu/Debian packages?
- From: Stephan Hermann <sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:33:25 +0200
- Message-id: <1184758405.6522.2.camel@DT0225>
Moins Adrian, Peter,
Am Mittwoch, den 18.07.2007, 09:37 +0200 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
> On Wednesday 18 July 2007 01:41:39 wrote Dr. Peter Poeml:
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:15:30PM +0200, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > > Right. OBS can't "cross create" package build descriptions for different
> > > distros, even rpm based distros are different.
> > >
> > > The funny thing about this is, that one idea was (when I remember
> > > correctly my chat with Adrian last year) that there is a plan to create
> > > something like this with xml written build description (not the build
> > > configurations for different distros on the obs server itself).
> > >
> > > I could imagine that it is possible to do that. Finding out the
> > > similarities for a global xml package build description and handling the
> > > differences with different xml namespaces. Creating the different files
> > > for different build environments with xslt then is just a matter of time
> > > and testing ;) At least that would be a feature what I would like to see
> > > in the future, even thinking about Mark Shuttleworths talk during Akademy
> > > 2007 (Listen and Watch it here
> > > http://home.kde.org/~akademy07/videos/1-06-Keynote-Shuttleworth.ogg or to
> > > spare bandwidth you can find it as well on my server:
> > > http://www.sourcecode.de/public/files/1-06-Keynote-Shuttleworth.ogg)
> >
> > Is this dead? http://en.opensuse.org/Abstract_Package_Build_Description
>
> It was a Google SoC project, but it is not really usable yet. And it lacks
> someone who continues to work on it ..
>
> However, the idea to create build descriptions from a template set for all
> distrobutions does exist since a while and there where also approaches to
> implement it, but none of them is really usable yet AFAIK.
I think this idea is taking place in a lot of OSS heads for quite a few
days/months/years ..
I would like to work together with people who want that.
"People who want that"....yeah, this is a big problem. As long as people
think (which I did in the last couple of years) that distros are not
working together, this plan won't be realized.
So, let's start with work on inter-distro-work regarding package
management. I think I'm able to provide some infos about debian and rpm
package management.
Regards,
\sh
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Am Mittwoch, den 18.07.2007, 09:37 +0200 schrieb Adrian Schröter:
> On Wednesday 18 July 2007 01:41:39 wrote Dr. Peter Poeml:
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:15:30PM +0200, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > > Right. OBS can't "cross create" package build descriptions for different
> > > distros, even rpm based distros are different.
> > >
> > > The funny thing about this is, that one idea was (when I remember
> > > correctly my chat with Adrian last year) that there is a plan to create
> > > something like this with xml written build description (not the build
> > > configurations for different distros on the obs server itself).
> > >
> > > I could imagine that it is possible to do that. Finding out the
> > > similarities for a global xml package build description and handling the
> > > differences with different xml namespaces. Creating the different files
> > > for different build environments with xslt then is just a matter of time
> > > and testing ;) At least that would be a feature what I would like to see
> > > in the future, even thinking about Mark Shuttleworths talk during Akademy
> > > 2007 (Listen and Watch it here
> > > http://home.kde.org/~akademy07/videos/1-06-Keynote-Shuttleworth.ogg or to
> > > spare bandwidth you can find it as well on my server:
> > > http://www.sourcecode.de/public/files/1-06-Keynote-Shuttleworth.ogg)
> >
> > Is this dead? http://en.opensuse.org/Abstract_Package_Build_Description
>
> It was a Google SoC project, but it is not really usable yet. And it lacks
> someone who continues to work on it ..
>
> However, the idea to create build descriptions from a template set for all
> distrobutions does exist since a while and there where also approaches to
> implement it, but none of them is really usable yet AFAIK.
I think this idea is taking place in a lot of OSS heads for quite a few
days/months/years ..
I would like to work together with people who want that.
"People who want that"....yeah, this is a big problem. As long as people
think (which I did in the last couple of years) that distros are not
working together, this plan won't be realized.
So, let's start with work on inter-distro-work regarding package
management. I think I'm able to provide some infos about debian and rpm
package management.
Regards,
\sh
--
Stephan Hermann
eMail: sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Blog: http://linux.blogweb.de/
JID: sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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