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Re: [opensuse-buildservice] open source development model
  • From: Robert Schiele <rschiele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:23:01 +0100
  • Message-id: <20060308182301.GH16618@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 06:03:24PM +0100, Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
> The public build service svn doesn't have a "shadow" svn internally
> where things are developed and later moved out. Whatever is in the
> public svn now is being developed there.

Actually I don't care whether it is a "shadow" svn or a "shadow"
we-don't-use-revision-control-internally-at-all tool. Obviously software
(like the build script) is already deployed to the build server in a version
that is not in the public repository (because there is _no_ version of the
build script in the repository but the server does actually build packages
already).

> It is true that not everything made it to the public svn yet for several
> reasons. This is an unfortunate, but as we all hope temporary situation.

So, what's the issue with _naming_ these problems?

I hope that we all hope this is a temporary situation but because of the
missing information flow not all of us can understand why the hope is not just
put into reality.

> This only affects the backend part. API frontend and clients are in the
> public svn, and developments happens there.

And you expect that there will be any useful contribution to for instance the
frontend part from outside the information firewall if there is neither
documentation about the interface to the backend, nor a working backend
available and people from outside can't even be sure which parts of the
backend will really be open sourced? You work yourself for a software company
and thus should know that this is neither really practical nor is it very
attractive.

You once moaned about having not enough speakers from outside SUSE at FOSDEM.
But what do you expect should people from outside talk about (well maybe about
how discussions on the mailing lists become more and more absurd) as long as
information flow is some speed limited one-way road and people from outside
have to pull every bit of information with enourmous effort outside. After
some time of doing that most of them will just go away frustrated.

Robert

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