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[Bug 276018] Include the OSS and Non-OSS metadata on the CDs/DVDs
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- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:29:11 -0600 (MDT)
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=276018
------- Comment #6 from francisg@xxxxxxxxx 2007-06-07 13:29 MST -------
>And talking about a few minutes waiting during installation: how long does a user wait from beginning of the installation until the repos are added? So I
would say: just time for another cup of coffee...
On slower connections it takes up to 40 minutes. Quite a transition, though,
for people coming from distros where this never happens.
I pretty much agree with you now though that it's not a viable option
considering how large _yast2_ metadata is for the oss repository.
> If they _know_ the 5 packages, why not downloading them from the FTP-Tree
without the overhead?
Same reasons you wouldn't normally anyway: hassle of thinking about
dependencies, and of course new users have no clue where the FTP tree is.
> 1 CD for a default KDE or Gnome installation (2CDs at all)
> 2 DVDs for each architecture containing all packages.
> The first DVD is like the current one, the second is an Add-on media.
Ah, I like that suggestion much better, too :).
I thought your suggestion was too keep all the other CDs, as well as introduce
this extra stuff; but this sounds nicer. One point might be still having a
non-oss addon cd, by the way.
The only problem also with this method is, like you said, having different CDs
for each language. That's quite a killer. The only other option is to make them
connect online to get the respective language packs after install.
> Replacing 8 medias with 3 sounds not like "more work" for me. ;-)
Indeed.
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------- Comment #6 from francisg@xxxxxxxxx 2007-06-07 13:29 MST -------
>And talking about a few minutes waiting during installation: how long does a user wait from beginning of the installation until the repos are added? So I
would say: just time for another cup of coffee...
On slower connections it takes up to 40 minutes. Quite a transition, though,
for people coming from distros where this never happens.
I pretty much agree with you now though that it's not a viable option
considering how large _yast2_ metadata is for the oss repository.
> If they _know_ the 5 packages, why not downloading them from the FTP-Tree
without the overhead?
Same reasons you wouldn't normally anyway: hassle of thinking about
dependencies, and of course new users have no clue where the FTP tree is.
> 1 CD for a default KDE or Gnome installation (2CDs at all)
> 2 DVDs for each architecture containing all packages.
> The first DVD is like the current one, the second is an Add-on media.
Ah, I like that suggestion much better, too :).
I thought your suggestion was too keep all the other CDs, as well as introduce
this extra stuff; but this sounds nicer. One point might be still having a
non-oss addon cd, by the way.
The only problem also with this method is, like you said, having different CDs
for each language. That's quite a killer. The only other option is to make them
connect online to get the respective language packs after install.
> Replacing 8 medias with 3 sounds not like "more work" for me. ;-)
Indeed.
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