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[Bug 276018] Include the OSS and Non-OSS metadata on the CDs/DVDs
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 04:16:48 -0600 (MDT)
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=276018
------- Comment #4 from francisg@xxxxxxxxx 2007-06-06 04:16 MST -------
If the rpm-md metadata was used, filelists.xml.gz is 12meg, and the
primary.xml.gz is around 6megs, so I think it's closer to an overall of 18meg
(roughly) than 30. Though I acknowledge using the rpm-md instead of yast
probably isn't a possibility. The yast repository is significantly larger. Just
to clarify however, the reasons for the initial enhancement request:
Less steps between having finished the install, and having an appropriately
tweaked install. If the user added the online repository during the
installation, they likely had to wait for quite some time (since the mirrors
are hammered at release time) through a process that can't be canceled. If not,
then they have to hunt down the repo URL from somewhere online. Even so, I
mean, the whole "you want to get one extra package? Ok, download 40meg of data
first" just never goes down well with any users.
I dislike the debian method you suggested as I think it's only beneficial in
very rare cases. If a user has a slow connection, they either downloaded the
DVD over a day or two, or they have a good friend. If they downloaded it
themselves, they don't want to wait another two days to only get the 5 packages
from it that they'll ever need. If they got it off a friend, they're not going
to want them to get two DVDs for them instead of one.
Also I think the last thing we need is more media. I mean, there's already so
many CDs, then the DVD, and the retail DVD. That's more work for you guys, too
;). For sure there are users that like the GNOME/KDE option when installing,
but I really think the user who wants to install-environment-X-with-one-CD is
more common, so I'm happy that things might be going that way :)
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------- Comment #4 from francisg@xxxxxxxxx 2007-06-06 04:16 MST -------
If the rpm-md metadata was used, filelists.xml.gz is 12meg, and the
primary.xml.gz is around 6megs, so I think it's closer to an overall of 18meg
(roughly) than 30. Though I acknowledge using the rpm-md instead of yast
probably isn't a possibility. The yast repository is significantly larger. Just
to clarify however, the reasons for the initial enhancement request:
Less steps between having finished the install, and having an appropriately
tweaked install. If the user added the online repository during the
installation, they likely had to wait for quite some time (since the mirrors
are hammered at release time) through a process that can't be canceled. If not,
then they have to hunt down the repo URL from somewhere online. Even so, I
mean, the whole "you want to get one extra package? Ok, download 40meg of data
first" just never goes down well with any users.
I dislike the debian method you suggested as I think it's only beneficial in
very rare cases. If a user has a slow connection, they either downloaded the
DVD over a day or two, or they have a good friend. If they downloaded it
themselves, they don't want to wait another two days to only get the 5 packages
from it that they'll ever need. If they got it off a friend, they're not going
to want them to get two DVDs for them instead of one.
Also I think the last thing we need is more media. I mean, there's already so
many CDs, then the DVD, and the retail DVD. That's more work for you guys, too
;). For sure there are users that like the GNOME/KDE option when installing,
but I really think the user who wants to install-environment-X-with-one-CD is
more common, so I'm happy that things might be going that way :)
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