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[Bug 230788] The Apple key shows gnome main menu-bar on an ppc iBook
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- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 10:37:19 -0700 (MST)
- Message-id: <20070101173719.4D0BF25C887@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=230788
------- Comment #1 from wberrier@xxxxxxxxxx 2007-01-01 10:37 MST -------
This bug is described well by this blog post:
http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/development/2006/Dec-30-2.html
Quoting:
Using the Windows key
"Back in the day," when my roommate was trying to convert me to Linux from
Windows, I spent a fair amount of time at the "console", outside of X11 or any
other GUI environment. One of the nice features that Linux had that FreeBSD and
other systems lacked at the time was virtual consoles: pressing Alt+FN (e.g.
Alt+F4) would immediately switch to virtual console N. This made it really
convenient to run multiple programs concurrently within separate shells,
without messing around with &, bg, etc.
I thought this was an excellent feature, so when I moved to using X11 more
extensively I wanted to do the same thing with virtual desktops. So I did. The
only downside to this is that some apps wanted to make use of Alt+FN shortcuts
themselves (e.g. KDE uses Alt+F4 to exit programs), but this was something I
was willing to live with.
More recently, I switched to using the Windows key as the virtual desktop
modifier, so that Win+FN would witch to virtual desktop N, and Shift+Win+FN
would move the current window to virtual desktop N.
I also use the Win key for a host of shortcuts borrowed from Windows, e.g.
Win+r to open the Run Program dialog, Win+d to show the Desktop, Win+a to move
the current window above all other windows (I use sloppy mouse focus/"focus
follows mouse"), Win+b to move the current window below all other windows, etc.
I use it a lot.
This is where things go horribly wrong: under openSUSE 10.2, the Win key is
always eaten by the Gnome main menu program. Oops.
Even worse, I can't find a way to fix this. Changing the Keyboard Layout in the
Keyboard Preferences application doesn't change anything, and none of the
Layout Options → Alt/Win key behavior options seem helpful.
The best "compromise" is the Alt is mapped to the right Win-key and Super to
Menu option, which still sucks, for two reasons. First, the Menu key can no
longer be used to open the context menu (fortunately Shift+F10 still works for
this), and two, all of my shortcuts which used to take one hand now take two.
Win+F1..Win+F5, Win+r, Win+a, Win+b, etc., could all be done with my left hand.
Since the Menu key is on the right, next to the right Ctrl key, I now require
two hands for these shortcuts. Which means I can't easily keep one hand on the
keyboard and one on the mouse...
Grr....
Please, someone fix this. It's fundamentally broken. I've been able to use Win
as a modifier for literally years, and now I can't, because one broken app
decides that the key is only meaningful to it. And removing the Gnome main menu
doesn't help, the menu is still displayed.
:-(
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------- Comment #1 from wberrier@xxxxxxxxxx 2007-01-01 10:37 MST -------
This bug is described well by this blog post:
http://www.jprl.com/Blog/archive/development/2006/Dec-30-2.html
Quoting:
Using the Windows key
"Back in the day," when my roommate was trying to convert me to Linux from
Windows, I spent a fair amount of time at the "console", outside of X11 or any
other GUI environment. One of the nice features that Linux had that FreeBSD and
other systems lacked at the time was virtual consoles: pressing Alt+FN (e.g.
Alt+F4) would immediately switch to virtual console N. This made it really
convenient to run multiple programs concurrently within separate shells,
without messing around with &, bg, etc.
I thought this was an excellent feature, so when I moved to using X11 more
extensively I wanted to do the same thing with virtual desktops. So I did. The
only downside to this is that some apps wanted to make use of Alt+FN shortcuts
themselves (e.g. KDE uses Alt+F4 to exit programs), but this was something I
was willing to live with.
More recently, I switched to using the Windows key as the virtual desktop
modifier, so that Win+FN would witch to virtual desktop N, and Shift+Win+FN
would move the current window to virtual desktop N.
I also use the Win key for a host of shortcuts borrowed from Windows, e.g.
Win+r to open the Run Program dialog, Win+d to show the Desktop, Win+a to move
the current window above all other windows (I use sloppy mouse focus/"focus
follows mouse"), Win+b to move the current window below all other windows, etc.
I use it a lot.
This is where things go horribly wrong: under openSUSE 10.2, the Win key is
always eaten by the Gnome main menu program. Oops.
Even worse, I can't find a way to fix this. Changing the Keyboard Layout in the
Keyboard Preferences application doesn't change anything, and none of the
Layout Options → Alt/Win key behavior options seem helpful.
The best "compromise" is the Alt is mapped to the right Win-key and Super to
Menu option, which still sucks, for two reasons. First, the Menu key can no
longer be used to open the context menu (fortunately Shift+F10 still works for
this), and two, all of my shortcuts which used to take one hand now take two.
Win+F1..Win+F5, Win+r, Win+a, Win+b, etc., could all be done with my left hand.
Since the Menu key is on the right, next to the right Ctrl key, I now require
two hands for these shortcuts. Which means I can't easily keep one hand on the
keyboard and one on the mouse...
Grr....
Please, someone fix this. It's fundamentally broken. I've been able to use Win
as a modifier for literally years, and now I can't, because one broken app
decides that the key is only meaningful to it. And removing the Gnome main menu
doesn't help, the menu is still displayed.
:-(
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