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[Bug 113699] /etc/sysconfig editor treeview section too small and non-resizable
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- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:09:14 -0700 (MST)
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=113699
------- Comment #12 from bluedzins@xxxxx 2006-12-31 09:09 MST -------
> Personally I'm not keen on any dialogue needing to be resizable or
> scrollable
> just to use it.
It is a must-have. I see too many dialogs designed to be fool-proof, but at the
end user installed custom fonts and nothing fits, or set some big sizes with
the same effect.
It is "experience-wise" to give users choice to resize dialogs.
> Where in modern GUIs do you have interface elements that must
> be resized or scrolled horizontally to be used?, not very frequently because
> it is annoying.
Horizontally, hmm, good observation.
> For a treeview there is a great deal of wasted space. Look at a
> really deep treeview like the one in the windows registry editor, One has to
> resize the left hand pane extremely wide, and there is a great deal of
> wasted space due to a treeview's shape.
I agree.
But! For now sysconf editor (and other yast modules) are not only elegant but
obscure (sad but true). So I would rather opt for adding splitter than
scrolling each time the treeview (very annoying).
> Elegance is about refined beauty and style, I
> don't think that this applies to a clumsy resizable pane.
Here, when considering tree, you are right. In general -- no, see KMail, it is
easier to fit the panes according to what you are focused at.
> However, this is probably the simplest solution, and no other solution seems
> much better at present.
How about "file/directory" approach -- Control Center in KDE for example, it is
elegant, productive, fast, I like it very much.
But I would still, even with this mode opt for a splitter -- why not giving
users a bit more freedom especially when it does not make any harm.
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------- Comment #12 from bluedzins@xxxxx 2006-12-31 09:09 MST -------
> Personally I'm not keen on any dialogue needing to be resizable or
> scrollable
> just to use it.
It is a must-have. I see too many dialogs designed to be fool-proof, but at the
end user installed custom fonts and nothing fits, or set some big sizes with
the same effect.
It is "experience-wise" to give users choice to resize dialogs.
> Where in modern GUIs do you have interface elements that must
> be resized or scrolled horizontally to be used?, not very frequently because
> it is annoying.
Horizontally, hmm, good observation.
> For a treeview there is a great deal of wasted space. Look at a
> really deep treeview like the one in the windows registry editor, One has to
> resize the left hand pane extremely wide, and there is a great deal of
> wasted space due to a treeview's shape.
I agree.
But! For now sysconf editor (and other yast modules) are not only elegant but
obscure (sad but true). So I would rather opt for adding splitter than
scrolling each time the treeview (very annoying).
> Elegance is about refined beauty and style, I
> don't think that this applies to a clumsy resizable pane.
Here, when considering tree, you are right. In general -- no, see KMail, it is
easier to fit the panes according to what you are focused at.
> However, this is probably the simplest solution, and no other solution seems
> much better at present.
How about "file/directory" approach -- Control Center in KDE for example, it is
elegant, productive, fast, I like it very much.
But I would still, even with this mode opt for a splitter -- why not giving
users a bit more freedom especially when it does not make any harm.
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