Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-boosters (113 mails)

[Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@xxxxxxx>]

On Monday 08 of March 2010, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> On 03/08/2010 03:49 PM, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > On Monday 08 of March 2010, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> > > Tried to get rid of some poisonous people on the mailinglists
> >
> >  And most likely failed, like all the previous attempts :(
>
> Why do you think so? :) I actually have hope that i at least was able to
> scare off one.

 We are not talking about Basil, are we?

> > How are actually currently the mailing lists handled? Is there
> > something more than just the netiquette wiki page and the (lack of,
> > often) goodwill of all participants to follow it?
>
> There is the netiquette and for escalation the owners (which is
> 99.999999% me).
>
> > I'm getting tired watching the dump the opensuse@ list is, it's not
> > uncommon for people to call each other names or do other kinds of things
> > that are clearly against the rules and make the lists a pain for people
> > who would actually like to use them for something useful (and I've seen a
> > number of complaints about that). Apparently just reason and goodwill do
> > not work with some people and there I really think some of these should
> > be warned and then kicked out if they are too stupid to act well.
>
> As soon as i know about name calling i talk to people. If they still
> can't behave i moderate them and if that fails too i kick them. The
> later steps happen not so often and the initial step (people telling the
> owner) not often enough.

 Fair enough. I'll point you to such cases next time.

> > I'm not sure how to go exactly about this
>
> I'm petty sure. opensuse@ is fubar'ed because there are not enough
> friendly people that lead by example. The assholes have free reign
> there, so everybody follows their lead. What it would need would be
> around 10-15 more friendly people to turn this around. You know it's
> like a bash or a club, if there are enough people partying then
> everybody is. If there are enough people in a bad mood, everybody will be.

 I'm afraid there's no helping with some people other than kicking them hard, 
but I can see how your plan turns out.

-- 
 Lubos Lunak
 openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer
 l.lunak@xxxxxxx , l.lunak@xxxxxxx
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