Hi all. Some of you might have followed the problem we had with KDM and domain logons. This issue should be fixed in my last commit to the related BZ, but it was a real long and ugly way to get there. I (as a designer) had to set up an Active Directory domain controller. I had to borrow another machine as my personal box is a low power Atom which is not capable for holding Virtual Machines. After that I had to join a machine to that newly created domain to see how the theme behaves. I spent a few sleepless hours on that, and felt forced to do so by Kenneth and Bruno. From my perspective we had never defined which function-set must be supported by the theme and just remembered that ppl called for a userlist in 12.1 which I have added. Just to let you know, only a very few of KDM themes support functionalities like userlist or domain logon, even not the official ones from the KDE project. And we had all kind of themes in the past. I have not followed the 12.2 KDM design which was driven by Bruno, but this seems to have these functions. Sadly it was not very well received from the design point of view. This leads me to my final summary: Functionality should never be driven by design. All other Display Managers I know, split these aspects. This is why I think KDM is broken and should be fixed. This could be done by replacing it with LightDM (and don't argue with missing systemd patches. Afaik these are there, they are just not accepted upstream, which we could not expect as they are using upstart and ignore the rest). If we want to stay with KDM, we should clearly define which functions must be supported. And again: don't expect that a designer will set up an Active Directory domain controller! If we want to support that, we need backed help from a technical contact. Greets Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org