On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote:
On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote:
I couldn't disagree more strongly.
I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one.... *ouch* :P
I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-)
I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then.
The top-right barcode needs a bit of a 'tweak' - I'm not sure exactly what - it's maybe a little bit too busy on the edge of the screen. Would it work with the geeko shape being black (as though the lines were broken?)
@Richard: Here you can download the vector graphic which got finally printed on the shirts. The Geeko is already spared out.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/workfiles/Settingcopy-3-Finalformat.s vg
Or perhaps a slightly simpler logo. Possibly, try getting rid of the geeko and pushing the bar upwards slightly, so there isn't so much bar code above it, and putting a simple geeko head logo in the bar. The pattern is just that little bit distracting where it is... what if the stripes faded out at the top, so it wasn't so crisp along the top of the screen?
I like Piotr's soft organic green design very much too. It's beautiful. My only suggestion would be to maybe add a little bit of soft variation of tone and color to the lines, perhaps. Too much green can be... too much :))
I liked Piotr's design as well. But something in me is saying that the background noise is not perfect ... maybe it remind me to much of JPEG Artefacts ... well ... not shure :-/
I have the same objection to Piotr's design, as it's a more direct derivative of 11.2. We need progress!
Apropos to much green: I had this simple idea yesterday:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/os12.1/playground/os12.1-Wallpaper-QRCode.pn g
I know, I sad some day ago that green as background colour on a screen is not good ... but in this case I had to brake the rule :-) This Wallpaper is made for being replaced quickly by the user.
We need a variety of strong, unique wallpapers for this release and I think there's room for all kinds of contributions.
I think photos are welcome as well!
What we _need right now_ is a direction, so we can make the installation/etc. artwork ready to fly.
Ack, we need one main design to inform the release. Look at how KDE ships wallpapers: one graphic design for each major release, supplemented by a mixed set of photographic/graphic wallpapers that allow users to quickly find something that represents their personal taste.
That means, the we need something for the Welcome-Screen, Boot-Loader, etc.
Maybe we can flip the colours of Richards draft for this cases?
Or do it very simple like my draft ... I would also be fine with Piotr's natural Design.
Regarding geometry, from a previous discussion, I got the impression that many people in the distribution felt that it was an exciting idea that reflected openSUSE's origins. It doesn't have to be the only artwork, but I think it should definitely be there as an option and many users will enjoy it.
I think the mathematical-wallpaper would be cool as option. As default it's to geeky.
I do like them for their nostalgic value, harking back to the days when i got into SUSE Linux. The Attachmate reboot of corporate SUSE as a 'back to good old SUSE' also gives the SUSE brand a certain amount of momentum in this direction at the moment, so perhaps we should ride that. However what Helen said about just plonking a surf render onto a gradient.
I think the 'pure' output of the modeling program is obviously not what's wanted, but it is an important starting point. Finding interesting shapes to work with. From there, the form can be experiemented with - play with surface decoration, light, background - it's not just used as a big lump of a thing, but turned into a design element. I wish I could do more with the geometry designs, but I suck at digital art and find 3D software rather difficult. (Anyway, studying for my first psychology exam....). If people who are good with 3D could create some variations on the designs, maybe including some 'wire frame' type outputs, also very simple line outputs and different viewpoints, things that 2D artists could play with?
What about inviting some classes of college digital art students to explore the idea?
+1000 Helen. I did not manage this for germany till now. But if you have any connections use them! That would be great!
Yes, please find a way to get some fresh ideas into the artwork mixing pot, but I fear it's too late for getting students involved to produce anything for 12.1. The fedora approach seems to work.
( I don't like the 'more than a product' slogan much - is that what we are going with at the moment?)
No ... it just fit to the shirt and I like the whole message. Finally openSUSE is more then a product :-)
"More than a product" refers to the openSUSE project, whereas we are discussing the wallpaper and branding for the openSUSE distribution, which is very much the /product/ of the project. my 2 cents, and sorry that I bring nothing more than my own tastes and experiences to the discussion Will.
best regards,
Helen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:30 AM, andi robert
wrote: I am sorry to say but this wallpapers just don't cut it for me. They lack connection to the public. What I mean by this is that it seems barren as a design. It is crowded with small lines that amount to not much. Even if they are intended to represent something, as a design idea it is not working right now.
On the good side, the design has potential. I would recommend simplifying the lines (have fewer of them) and use a more vibrant color palette. If green is going to be highlight, let's make it noticeable.
Andy
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Richard Brown
wrote: Hi All,
I've been working on making a wallpaper based on Nunos barcode artwork we've used on Posters and T-shirts recently
My leading idea was to take that idea and mix in some of the ideas bounced around the oSC artwork session, such as using green as a 'highlight' instead of a main colour
You can see the fruits of my labour at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.png and the svg at http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft5.svg
It's basically the T-shirt art with a few minor tweaks (spotted one bar had its gradient sideways) and gradient changes to make the green 'work'
I quite like how it came out, so took some screenshots so you could see how it works 'in action' with GNOME3 http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen1.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/screen2.png
I also bounced around a few other ideas with the same base, such as a version using white/green similar to the T-shirts at oSC http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft3.svg
and a ridiculously bright green (probably too bright) take based on the colours from a concept rhilm sent my way http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.png http://www.sysrich.co.uk/121wallpaper/draft4.svg
Look forward to hearing what you think
> Marcus Moeller 09/18/11 9:14 AM >>>
Dear Jan,
Looks nice,
only some ideas from me based on the wallpapers.
* the lines more sharper so ist looks lilke glases or reflections * smaller dashes in the right corner area but with a few dashes who goes to the other side * a little bit darker
Only my 2 Cents. :)
You could download the xcf file and try to modify it to your needs. It shouln't be that hard.
Greets Marcus
Jan
Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 22:18:44 schrieb Marcus Moeller:
As there has not been any agreement on a concept for 12.1 here is just a free submission:
http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1600x1200 .png
http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail_1920x1200 .png
http://www.marcusmoeller.ch/share/oS/12_1/concepts/contrail.xcf
Thanks to Alexander for his help.
Greets Marcus
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