Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-artwork (81 mails)

["S.Kemter" <buergermeister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

>  This is mainly a personal opinion as such might not be like other
> people but I'll try to be superficial enough to keep things simple...
>
>  I would probably treat the slideshow as if it was a TV premier
> commercial time. This means, doing a triage of the stuff more important
> you have on your showcase.
>
>  From a Marketing perspective, I would probably claim that using this
> space to "educate" your users could be nice. It's in fact one of the
> main variables for any service marketing. Education, in a way we should
> have a pedagogic behavior towards the audience.
>
>  As you say, and very well in my opinion; it's a good idea to face it
> from a 'look what you can do with your opensuse' then exactly from a
> more 'dead' perspective such as 'look we feature all this cool software'
> and no one remembers later.
>
>  I don't know the time frames involved, but maybe a small brainstrom
> through a collaborative tool and try to create something like a 30 sec
> pitch for any of the features you guys want to highlight and start from
> there? 
>
>  I like the invitation part, and honestly this should be a good thing
> and actually being done... but there's something I would like to
> remember first about this 'invitation' we should have already to go
> alongside with it a small 'place' or something that could work as a easy
> start up ramp. Imagine you get people attention, then what? you are
> going to send them into a wiki ? you are going them into mailing lists?
> foruns ? I mean that idea should actually be far more explored and the
> concept developed. I would strongly go for the 'invitation', I believe
> it might become a win.
>
>  Another thing I would like to comment, or maybe I'm wrong... but it's
> just how I see it from lurking. The Ambassadorial initiative is having a
> lot of positive sinergies. I would also consider taking one slide to
> helping it getting a boost and some more visibility... In a way,
> Ambassadors are the community front office. I believe it's a good
> investment in promoting Ambassadors, specially in such a flashy thing as
> in an installer. I believe it will pay off well.
>
>  There is one 'another thing' also I can point... For people who are
> already in a way familiarized with another distro or even first
> comers... getting access to packages and repositories for me was somehow
> tricky. It was in a way easier with Fedora because I was already
> familiarized with 'yum' and their own repository, rawhide was also a
> place where I shopped around... rpmfind... and barely I needed something
> out from there.
>
>  When I landed on openSUSE with a more serious approach, I had to get
> familiarized with zypper, your software repo's and some browsing
> adventures searching other repo's. I would eventually spare some space
> on slides for some tools that help people who are for example changing
> from another distro. Zypper is a good start... osc is a must in my
> opinion. And it's probably a good hook to link to build and studio,
> which without doubt should be present. I believe that investing on this
> tools could actually trigger more interest in people that are trying
> openSUSE and are already familiarized with another flavour. Some $care
> for repo's info and a little intro could also be fun either for first
> timers, casuals...

We should remember a familiar user of openSUSE would skip the slideshow
and watch the download and installing process. So from this side makes
it sense to make a whole page only for Ambassadors program? It is good
that a noob becomes after installation Ambassadors and would be asked on
a booth questions and he cant give no answer because he have not a lot
of experience with openSUSE?
We can and we should mention the Ambassador program of course, there is
place in "where u can find help" and "u can help us" pages already

For the zypper - yum thing the same, I think a new user wouldnt use
zypper as his first choice, he would use yast on graphical side. Of
course we should give informations on the slide show but we cant educate
about using yast or zypper there, there isnt enough place for it. But
what we can do is point the new user to a page where he can find the
needed information.


br gnokii

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