On 31.07.2012, at 20:17, Gábor Nyers wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:06:48 +0100 Andrew Wafaa
wrote: Hi Gábor,
On 31 July 2012 17:23, Gábor Nyers
wrote: Hi,
A quick search on the list haven't returned anything recent, so just to check: does someone has an image for the RaspberryPi laying around, which I could test on my shiny new board? I'm aware that the project currently focuses on different platform version, but maybe some people have been doing some pioneering already :-)
There are some people pioneering away, but nothing yet. Things are moving ahead slowly but you will either have to be patient or help the pioneers ;-)
Either way... I don't mind being patient nor helping out within my quite limited programming/packaging experience. Who are the pioneers and what is there that is in need of pioneering? :-)
I also understand that it is important to have focus, but given the huge interest and growing availability of the RaspberryPi, this little device has a *lot* of potential. So I'd think that there is/will be demand for (maybe a stripped down?) openSUSE version for it.
There is indeed lots of interest, but as it uses what is classed as an old architecture there isn't a huge amount of future in it.
That remains to be seen. Arduino isn't new either, yet I don't think it is being abandoned. In fact I'd dare to say that the popularity of both is driven by their low costs, the fact that they are known and have momentum, rather than their computing power or modernity. As someone who tried the Arduino I think the RaspberryPi could be easily used instead of it for many more advanced hobby projects, simply because there is a well-known OS available for it.
This is not to say it will not happen again, but as far as focus goes we are indeed looking forward rather behind.
I agree, however in the case of the RaspberryPi I think it is the exception that strengthens the rule ;-) It is unlikely that the Pi will be on the bleeding edge of desktop or related use-cases. But, there are plenty of other cases (e.g.: multimedia, robotics, home automation and other embedded stuff) where a specialized edition of a generic OS could be of big help. Hence there is probably no need to release a complete openSUSE for the Pi with Gnome/KDE etc. And besides, it would also be a great popularity booster for openSUSE.
Sorry for replying late here. I don't think anyone even remotely disagrees. We are currently only a limited amount of people, and getting only a single architecture with only a very limited amount of boards up and rolling is already challenging. So we had to take some cuts on what we're looking at here and there. That doesn't mean we don't want armv5, just that it won't be Dirk, Adrian or me spending too much time to get it working :). So yes, pull up your sleeves, dive into the code and get dirty :). We more than welcome any contributor who gets the armv5 port working great for the Raspberry PI. The last big build blocker that I was aware of was boost, but I'm not sure what the current state is there. Bernhard, do you have an armv5 todo list? It sounds as if there are some volunteers who want to help make the armv5 port fly :) Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org