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RE: [suse-amd64] Status of Serial ATA support
- From: "Dave Reid" <davereid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:48:46 +0000 (UTC)
- Message-id: <20040112064753.XNAP27267.priv-edtnes51.telusplanet.net@daveco1>
I disabled the Serial ATA drive and installed a 60GIG standard ATA133 drive.
I installed Windows on this drive to confirm all the hardware was working
and it was. In went the SUSE 9.0 PRO for AMD 64 DVD I paid $200 for, it
displayed the install menu, I selected INSTALL and it start to boot. It then
promptly seized up at exactly the same place it did before as below:
Starting hardware detection
>misc.1.3 read floppy - then nothing.
I've just about had it with SUSE linux, for my $200 and let me be extremely
clear about this, I expect and DEMAND the ability to install this without
jumping through 40 hoops to get the bloody thing to work. I have already
wasted too much time on this and I am going give SUSE to the Thursday the
16th to come up with a solution, otherwise at which time I will be returning
this piece of crap to the store and getting my money back.
I'm sorry for my attitude but until Linux Vendors manage to fiqure out that
customers who pay actual money for their products expect them to bloody well
work (yes I'm very pissed) LINUX will continue to be largely irrelevant.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Jaeger [mailto:aj@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:36 AM
To: davereid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: suse-amd64@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Status of Serial ATA support
"Dave Reid" <davereid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> I'm rather amazed at the emails on this list that I found that
helped
> explain why the SUSE 9.0 for AMD64 won't load, No Serial ATA Support
> for the VIA chipset (or any chipset for that matter). What a crushing
> appointment, I built this machine specfically to use SUSE 9.0 for AMD
> 64, and yes I bought modern hardware like a serial ATA drive. If Linux
> cannot support the current hardware generation it will continue to
> remain
Unless HW vendors develop drivers themselves or take care that their brand
new hardware works everywhere and not only on Windows, we will always have
this problem. The situation is much better than 5 years ago but there's
still a difference in support by most vendors. So, brand new hardware is
always at risk.
> marginalized on the desktop bigtime. So when can I expect Serial ATA
> support (I will not go to last generation hardware) or did I just
> waste my money on this thing? So much for the easy installation, what a
joke.
We plan to release a new kernel this month with Serial ATA support for the
VIA chipset. But making this available so that you can install on your
system takes some tricks. I'll check whether this is possible after my
vacation.
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, aj@xxxxxxx, http://www.suse.de/~aj
SuSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
I installed Windows on this drive to confirm all the hardware was working
and it was. In went the SUSE 9.0 PRO for AMD 64 DVD I paid $200 for, it
displayed the install menu, I selected INSTALL and it start to boot. It then
promptly seized up at exactly the same place it did before as below:
Starting hardware detection
>misc.1.3 read floppy - then nothing.
I've just about had it with SUSE linux, for my $200 and let me be extremely
clear about this, I expect and DEMAND the ability to install this without
jumping through 40 hoops to get the bloody thing to work. I have already
wasted too much time on this and I am going give SUSE to the Thursday the
16th to come up with a solution, otherwise at which time I will be returning
this piece of crap to the store and getting my money back.
I'm sorry for my attitude but until Linux Vendors manage to fiqure out that
customers who pay actual money for their products expect them to bloody well
work (yes I'm very pissed) LINUX will continue to be largely irrelevant.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Jaeger [mailto:aj@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:36 AM
To: davereid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: suse-amd64@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Status of Serial ATA support
"Dave Reid" <davereid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> I'm rather amazed at the emails on this list that I found that
helped
> explain why the SUSE 9.0 for AMD64 won't load, No Serial ATA Support
> for the VIA chipset (or any chipset for that matter). What a crushing
> appointment, I built this machine specfically to use SUSE 9.0 for AMD
> 64, and yes I bought modern hardware like a serial ATA drive. If Linux
> cannot support the current hardware generation it will continue to
> remain
Unless HW vendors develop drivers themselves or take care that their brand
new hardware works everywhere and not only on Windows, we will always have
this problem. The situation is much better than 5 years ago but there's
still a difference in support by most vendors. So, brand new hardware is
always at risk.
> marginalized on the desktop bigtime. So when can I expect Serial ATA
> support (I will not go to last generation hardware) or did I just
> waste my money on this thing? So much for the easy installation, what a
joke.
We plan to release a new kernel this month with Serial ATA support for the
VIA chipset. But making this available so that you can install on your
system takes some tricks. I'll check whether this is possible after my
vacation.
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, aj@xxxxxxx, http://www.suse.de/~aj
SuSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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