Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-ambassadors (190 mails)

[Jos Poortvliet <jos@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 2011-05-15 Jan wrote:
> I think the biggest thing the ambassadors need to do is promote
> openSUSE, Linux and open source as a viable alternative to other
> proprietary operating systems.
>
> Think back to how you started.. what made you switch? What help did
> you need? What did you have to learn to get openSUSE/Linux to do
> what you want to do with your pc?
>
> We as ambassadors need to go out there and provide this help locally
> to people who do not know openSUSE/Linux exist.. Show them what it
> can do.. show them how easy it is.. and give them the support they
> no doubt will need.. For this you do not need training, just
> patience and time!

Nah, I can see some room for training. Or at least some materials like 
"how to give a presentation". Some of that is actually part of the 
Speakers Guidelines I wrote for the openSUSE Conference (has tips and 
tricks on how to make a good presentation) and some of it is in the pre-
made presentations we have. But having more won't hurt.


> Just my 2cts..
>
> Jan-Bart Spang
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:      Re: [opensuse-ambassadors] Novell sponsored training for
> Ambassadors?
> Date:         Sun, 15 May 2011 13:45:43 -0700
> From:         Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>
> Organisation:         Liberated Technologies
> To:   opensuse-ambassadors@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> On Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:44:56 PM you wrote:
> >  2011/5/15 Roger Luedecke<roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >  >  On Sunday, May 15, 2011 11:53:05 AM you wrote:
> >  >>  I don't believe that ambassadors actually need something like
> >  >>  an LPI degree, Ambassadors are mainly marketing, Talking to
> >  >>  people about openSUSE and act like an openSUSE evangelists.
> >  >>  How a degree like that will actually help someone do that?
> >  >>  I am talking from myself now but I don't see any use of that
> >  >>  to an ambassador, a degree in PR would be much more useful I
> >  >>  think ;-) It does not harm but it is hardly crucial to an
> >  >>  ambassador, under my opinion.
> >  >>  
> >  >>  2011/5/14 Chuck Payne<terrorpup@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >  >>  >  On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Roger Luedecke
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> >  >>  >>  On 05/13/2011 10:26 PM, jdd wrote:
> >  >>  >>>  Le 14/05/2011 01:12, Roger Luedecke a écrit :
> >  >>  >>>>  Precisely my thought.
> >  >>  >>>  
> >  >>  >>>  if so, they will need this:
> >  >>  >>>  
> >  >>  >>>  http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283
> >  >>  >>>  
> >  >>  >>>  :-)
> >  >>  >>>  
> >  >>  >>>  jdd
> >  >>  >>  
> >  >>  >>  I believe Novell has their own training materials.
> >  >>  >>  Microsoft was distributing a very good C++ book for a
> >  >>  >>  while through MSDN, no doubt Novell could work out a
> >  >>  >>  similar deal if need be.
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> >  >>  >  Novell/Attachment I believe will not train us. After my
> >  >>  >  many dealing with the Novell Sale Engineer. Many don't
> >  >>  >  like the fact that we are going out there. I had a few ask
> >  >>  >  why I was at a fest and not some SE. Plus, I don't think
> >  >>  >  Novell/Attachment would train the Ambassador unless they
> >  >>  >  could get money back.
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >   Guys remember the Ambassador program a volunteer program.
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  I agree training would be nice. But, I think we need not
> >  >>  >  look at Novell/Attachment but to our community. I am
> >  >>  >  System Administrator with 15 years on me. I done one
> >  >>  >  training class for an event. I am looking to see what it
> >  >>  >  would take to set up such classes online, but until I get
> >  >>  >  settle in my new job, I don't have time. But I do want to
> >  >>  >  do that, I love to make the openSUSE Day a thing we could
> >  >>  >  do at fest.
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  The Welcome Team is suppose to mentor and well other
> >  >>  >  ambassadors.
> >  >>  
> >  >>  'suppose' ? Does anyone has a problem with the mentoring we
> >  >>  are doing? Does anyone disagrees that we are doing mentoring?
> >  >>  
> >  >>   We
> >  >>   
> >  >>  >  were talk about having a mentor program too, but it was
> >  >>  >  agree that the Welcome Team would mentor or try to find
> >  >>  >  people to mentor.
> >  >>  
> >  >>  The mentoring program idea was also turned down from you too,
> >  >>  although I had talk to you about it personally and you
> >  >>  accepted at first and then you left me alone with the
> >  >>  mentoring idea, and that was the reason that fell on to the
> >  >>  welcome teams duties, am I wrong? Does all that undermining
> >  >>  to our work from you Chuck has a bottom line? If it is please
> >  >>  let me know.
> >  >>  If you have a problem with the work we are doing why you
> >  >>  haven't spoke to us so far and you are doing it now?
> >  >>  We are suppose to be friends here and having fun, not doing
> >  >>  politics :-(
> >  >>  
> >  >>  
> >  >>  
> >  >>  So Roger,
> >  >>  
> >  >>  >  if you want or need help, please ask. That goes for all.
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  Let do this.  On this mailing list. Please everyone that is
> >  >>  >  an Ambassador, write down that you like to be train on. I
> >  >>  >  will take that information redo it so that we can put
> >  >>  >  together a list of things you guys feell ambassador need
> >  >>  >  training. Then we will start working on training. Putting
> >  >>  >  things on the wiki, maybe creating PDF or e-books you can
> >  >>  >  carry with you.
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  Novell/Attachment and soon to be SUSE are our sponsors, but
> >  >>  >  we as a community need take care of each other. Lets teach
> >  >>  >  each other so we can grow as a community. We have the
> >  >>  >  great group people and I think we can do this.
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  
> >  >>  >  Pup
> >  >>  >  
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> >  >>  >  Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD,  an
> >  >>  >  app you want to package and distribute , or create your
> >  >>  >  own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try.
> >  >>  >  www.susestudio.com.
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> >  >>  Kostas Koudaras
> >  >  
> >  >  Certainly, but another thing that ambassador do is help new
> >  >  users. Training and such related to technical matters would
> >  >  make a much more powerful communtiy of help available to guide
> >  >  new users.
> >  
> >  I agree it would be helpful, I just personally don't find it a
> >  crucial skill for an ambassador.
> >  Maybe you are right about strengthen the community, but anyway we
> >  have people solving that kind of matters ;-)
> >  Kostas
>
> Well, no not crucial. But it would be a good option for those
> ambassadors who think they could benefit in the things they do with
> the community. Perhaps there should be a seperate group of technical
> ambassadors or some such.