Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-ambassadors (190 mails)

[Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@xxxxxxxxx>]

2011/5/16 Jan-Bart Spang <jb.spang@xxxxxx>:
> I think the biggest thing the ambassadors need to do is promote openSUSE,
> Linux and open source as a viable alternative to other proprietary operating
> systems.
>
> Think back to how you started.. what made you switch? What help did you
> need? What did you have to learn to get openSUSE/Linux to do what you want
> to do with your pc?
>
> We as ambassadors need to go out there and provide this help locally to
> people who do not know openSUSE/Linux exist.. Show them what it can do..
> show them how easy it is.. and give them the support they no doubt will
> need.. For this you do not need training, just patience and time!

+1 my thought exactly

> Just my 2cts..
>
> Jan-Bart Spang
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Re: [opensuse-ambassadors] Novell sponsored training for
> Ambassadors?
> Date:   Sun, 15 May 2011 13:45:43 -0700
> From:   Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>
> Organisation:   Liberated Technologies
> To:     opensuse-ambassadors@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:44:56 PM you wrote:
> >  2011/5/15 Roger Luedecke<roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >  >  On Sunday, May 15, 2011 11:53:05 AM you wrote:
> >  >>  I don't believe that ambassadors actually need something like an LPI
> >  >>  degree, Ambassadors are mainly marketing, Talking to people about
> >  >>  openSUSE and act like an openSUSE evangelists.
> >  >>  How a degree like that will actually help someone do that?
> >  >>  I am talking from myself now but I don't see any use of that to an
> >  >>  ambassador, a degree in PR would be much more useful I think ;-)
> >  >>  It does not harm but it is hardly crucial to an ambassador, under my
> >  >>  opinion.
> >  >>
> >  >>  2011/5/14 Chuck Payne<terrorpup@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >  >>  >  On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Roger Luedecke
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> >  >>  >>  On 05/13/2011 10:26 PM, jdd wrote:
> >  >>  >>>  Le 14/05/2011 01:12, Roger Luedecke a écrit :
> >  >>  >>>>  Precisely my thought.
> >  >>  >>>
> >  >>  >>>  if so, they will need this:
> >  >>  >>>
> >  >>  >>>  http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283
> >  >>  >>>
> >  >>  >>>  :-)
> >  >>  >>>
> >  >>  >>>  jdd
> >  >>  >>
> >  >>  >>  I believe Novell has their own training materials. Microsoft was
> >  >>  >>  distributing a very good C++ book for a while through MSDN, no
> > doubt
> >  >>  >>  Novell could work out a similar deal if need be.
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> >  >>  >  Novell/Attachment I believe will not train us. After my many
> > dealing
> >  >>  >  with the Novell Sale Engineer. Many don't like the fact that we
> > are
> >  >>  >  going out there. I had a few ask why I was at a fest and not some
> > SE.
> >  >>  >  Plus, I don't think Novell/Attachment would train the Ambassador
> >  >>  >  unless they could get money back.
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >   Guys remember the Ambassador program a volunteer program.
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  I agree training would be nice. But, I think we need not look at
> >  >>  >  Novell/Attachment but to our community. I am System Administrator
> > with
> >  >>  >  15 years on me. I done one training class for an event. I am
> > looking
> >  >>  >  to see what it would take to set up such classes online, but until
> > I
> >  >>  >  get settle in my new job, I don't have time. But I do want to do
> > that,
> >  >>  >  I love to make the openSUSE Day a thing we could do at fest.
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  The Welcome Team is suppose to mentor and well other ambassadors.
> >  >>
> >  >>  'suppose' ? Does anyone has a problem with the mentoring we are
> > doing?
> >  >>  Does anyone disagrees that we are doing mentoring?
> >  >>
> >  >>   We
> >  >>
> >  >>  >  were talk about having a mentor program too, but it was agree that
> > the
> >  >>  >  Welcome Team would mentor or try to find people to mentor.
> >  >>
> >  >>  The mentoring program idea was also turned down from you too,
> > although
> >  >>  I had talk to you about it personally and you accepted at first and
> >  >>  then you left me alone with the mentoring idea, and that was the
> >  >>  reason that fell on to the welcome teams duties, am I wrong?
> >  >>  Does all that undermining to our work from you Chuck has a bottom
> >  >>  line? If it is please let me know.
> >  >>  If you have a problem with the work we are doing why you haven't
> > spoke
> >  >>  to us so far and you are doing it now?
> >  >>  We are suppose to be friends here and having fun, not doing politics
> > :-(
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>  So Roger,
> >  >>
> >  >>  >  if you want or need help, please ask. That goes for all.
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  Let do this.  On this mailing list. Please everyone that is an
> >  >>  >  Ambassador, write down that you like to be train on. I will take
> > that
> >  >>  >  information redo it so that we can put together a list of things
> > you
> >  >>  >  guys feell ambassador need training. Then we will start working on
> >  >>  >  training. Putting things on the wiki, maybe creating PDF or
> > e-books
> >  >>  >  you can carry with you.
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  Novell/Attachment and soon to be SUSE are our sponsors, but we as
> > a
> >  >>  >  community need take care of each other. Lets teach each other so
> > we
> >  >>  >  can grow as a community. We have the great group people and I
> > think we
> >  >>  >  can do this.
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  Pup
> >  >>  >
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> >  >>  >  skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup
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> >  >>  >
> >  >>  >  Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD,  an app you
> > want
> >  >>  >  to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give
> > SUSE
> >  >>  >  Studio a try. www.susestudio.com.
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> >  >>  Kostas Koudaras
> >  >
> >  >  Certainly, but another thing that ambassador do is help new users.
> >  >  Training and such related to technical matters would make a much more
> >  >  powerful communtiy of help available to guide new users.
> >
> >  I agree it would be helpful, I just personally don't find it a crucial
> >  skill for an ambassador.
> >  Maybe you are right about strengthen the community, but anyway we have
> >  people solving that kind of matters ;-)
> >  Kostas
>
> Well, no not crucial. But it would be a good option for those ambassadors
> who
> think they could benefit in the things they do with the community. Perhaps
> there should be a seperate group of technical ambassadors or some such.
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