Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-ambassadors (135 mails)

[Kostas Koudaras <warlordfff@xxxxxxxxx>]

2010/11/19 Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Friday 19 November 2010 11:14:38 S.Kemter wrote:
> > Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 10:48:52 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> > > On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:35:59 S.Kemter wrote:
> > > > Am Donnerstag 18 November 2010, 11:39:29 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> > > > > On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa
> > > > > Kurera
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >  [...]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador =>
> > > > > > [Modifications - AJ consider the recommendation
> > > > > > and put green color to add Frank ]
> > > > >
> > > > > Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you
> > > > > that you do the right thing ;)
> > > >
> > > > mmh,find it since days funny, does the old process not work? For
> > > > what a new one? Only take care of ur work was the question wasnt
> > > > it?
> > >
> > > The idea in the discussion here was that a small team takes care of
> > > the whole process and that's something I like - let's not create too
> > > many single point of failures.
> >
> > yeah u are right let us better create a band of failure makers. We had a
> > feature screening team before and what happend?
>
> We had no tool support for the feature team and therefore it died.
>
> > Same on membership team, hear more and more they dont work.
>
> It all depends on the people in it.
>
> > Failures comes from big fat senseless processes like its created now!!!!

What process of the above do you find big fat senseless exactly? I
believe that we are here to make suggestions on how to make things
better and instead of characterize the others proposals, make a better
one or tell him/her why its proposal is big fat senseless.I honestly
speaking really appreciate your work but I cannot leave you compromise
mine, or anyone’s else,it's not fair.
> I don't see anything senseless in what I've done so far - and I see the
> same process followed and additionally more information made available for
> new ambassadors which I consider a good thing.
>
> > yeah let us make that more and more complicated, then we have all more
> > work to do, yeah but we are a team and the other one does the job.
>
> I agree, it should not be more complicated - neither for the new
> ambassadors nor for us.  But a warm welcome and some good information at
> the beginning might make the difference between an engaged and active
> ambassador and somebody that soon leaves the ambassy without anybody
> noticing...
>
> I don't think the team should be too large - since in a too large team
> nobody feels responsible. Still, Sirko, if you're interested, sign up for
> the team, you're welcome,
>
> Andreas
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