Re: [opensuse-xfce] How to make suggestions or add packages to xfce pattern?
Hi Maurizio, Am 25.10.18 um 12:10 schrieb Maurizio Galli:
Hello Stefan, Thank you for your answer.
The history of the software selection is "I took over what Guido
Berhoerster left behind and try to not break anthing by avoiding touching things as far as possible" :-)
I also don't wanna break anything of course :P.
I didn't want to imply that. It was more a "I did not touch patterns when I could avoid it, because it does not affect me anyway" :-)
I don't think changing the programs will do so, as long as apps keep being maintained as it's currently the case. However, if the pattern is changed, users relying on the pattern and recommended packages will eventually get the new software installed with `zypper dup`. This has to be taken into account and maybe done gradually rather than all at once, as it may annoy somebody. Therefore your suggestion to bring this discussion to Factory could be a good idea.
I think a majority of TW users use "--no-recommends", but we can announce on -factory what packages we recommend to install.
I also filed a Bugzilla request because I was suggested to do so on Discord: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112889 I don't know how useful this report is as the pattern is maintained in X11:xfce. Thus I believe it's up to you and the other maintainers to make the call on its changes.
I think so, too :-)
How can I link this thread to the Factory mailing list?
Don't. Just announce on factory what you are going to do: "I'll submit an updated xfce-patterns package, with these changes...". Don't request discussion (people will discuss anyway ;-)), but just state it as fact. If a discussion starts, we can see what we can take from that, if not just go ahead with your changes. Then submit your changes in OBS and I and / or Takashi will review them (note: I'm on vacation next week, so my latency will be high) and accept them. Best regards, -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+owner@opensuse.org
Hello Stefan,
Thank you sounds good to me.
Best,
Maurizio Galli (MauG)
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:35 PM Stefan Seyfried
Hi Maurizio,
Am 25.10.18 um 12:10 schrieb Maurizio Galli:
Hello Stefan, Thank you for your answer.
The history of the software selection is "I took over what Guido
Berhoerster left behind and try to not break anthing by avoiding touching things as far as possible" :-)
I also don't wanna break anything of course :P.
I didn't want to imply that. It was more a "I did not touch patterns when I could avoid it, because it does not affect me anyway" :-)
I don't think changing the programs will do so, as long as apps keep being maintained as it's currently the case. However, if the pattern is changed, users relying on the pattern and recommended packages will eventually get the new software installed with `zypper dup`. This has to be taken into account and maybe done gradually rather than all at once, as it may annoy somebody. Therefore your suggestion to bring this discussion to Factory could be a good idea.
I think a majority of TW users use "--no-recommends", but we can announce on -factory what packages we recommend to install.
I also filed a Bugzilla request because I was suggested to do so on Discord: https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1112889 I don't know how useful this report is as the pattern is maintained in X11:xfce. Thus I believe it's up to you and the other maintainers to make the call on its changes.
I think so, too :-)
How can I link this thread to the Factory mailing list?
Don't. Just announce on factory what you are going to do:
"I'll submit an updated xfce-patterns package, with these changes...".
Don't request discussion (people will discuss anyway ;-)), but just state it as fact.
If a discussion starts, we can see what we can take from that, if not just go ahead with your changes.
Then submit your changes in OBS and I and / or Takashi will review them (note: I'm on vacation next week, so my latency will be high) and accept them.
Best regards, -- Stefan Seyfried
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-xfce+owner@opensuse.org
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