[opensuse-wiki] Yet another plea for testing
Hi, there was one last thing still missing in the new Template for openSUSE.org - the three column layout for the starting page. After hours of digging into MediWiki's php files and searching on Google I hopefully managed to make it work: http://en.test.opensuse.org/ http://de.test.opensuse.org/ I am not sure that it will work with every user configuration (initially I had problems when the user switched the language or wasn't logged in), so I would feel much better if you would test it. I also would like to hear your feedback on mainting the new starting page - it has become more complicated: - the Home Page is now made up from 2 separate documents: * Main Page (the content area) http://en.test.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Main_Page * MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn (the right column) http://en.test.opensuse.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn - MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn is included via Template with wfMsg() - (I haven't found another way to do it - if there is a better alternative, please let me know). Unfortunately this means that no wiki markup can be used within this file - it has to be pure HTML. This is also true for Links, so [[Internal Link]], [http://server/ External Link] or interwiki Links cannot be used. http://{{SERVERNAME}} has to be used for internal links. - MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn has to be present on each wiki. If it is not, it will look as on http://fr.test.opensuse.org/ - messing up the HTML in MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn (especially forgetting to close <div>s) might break the complete page layout (on the other hand this is true for every other page as well) -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: [...]
- MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn is included via Template with wfMsg() - (I haven't found another way to do it - if there is a better alternative, please let me know). Unfortunately this means that no wiki markup can be used within this file - it has to be pure HTML. This is also true for Links, so [[Internal Link]], [http://server/ External Link] or interwiki Links cannot be used. http://{{SERVERNAME}} has to be used for internal links.
The question may sound silly, but I'll ask nevertheless: What's wrong with putting the right column into a Template:Mainpagerightcolumn page and to use {{Mainpagerightcolumn}} to include it? This way, all wiki formatting could be used. And my usual you-should-better-call-your-eye-doctor test ;-) results in cut-off text in the right column. Unfortunately the right column gets smaller with increasing font sizes :-( - it should have a fixed width, specified in em. Screenshot:http://www.cboltz.de/tmp/opensuse-rightcol.png Regards, Christian Boltz -- Perl ist der geglückte Versuch, einen braindump direkt ausführbar zu machen. [Lutz Donnerhacke in dasr] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:12, Christian Boltz wrote: Hi,
The question may sound silly, but I'll ask nevertheless:
What's wrong with putting the right column into a Template:Mainpagerightcolumn page and to use {{Mainpagerightcolumn}} to include it?
This way, all wiki formatting could be used.
I would have done that, but in order to keep the skin template as simple as possible, the right column is inserted outside the regular content area (the one you can edit via the frontend). Therefore the column can only be inserted via the skin template and that does not support wiki templates.
And my usual you-should-better-call-your-eye-doctor test ;-) results in cut-off text in the right column. Unfortunately the right column gets smaller with increasing font sizes :-( - it should have a fixed width, specified in em.
This cannot work with the current design. It would work with a col1-col3-col2 design with col2 floating right, but such a design would require a header being independent from the content area with the column. Since our header depend on the column widths in the content area, I had to choose a col1-col2 design for the overall page. If you now put two columns in col2 - col2.2 with 10em width floating right and a col2.1 with auto-width and a right margin of 11em col2.2 will be positioned below col2.1 ;-(. -- Regards Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
Hello, on Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:12, Christian Boltz wrote: [...]
And my usual you-should-better-call-your-eye-doctor test ;-) results in cut-off text in the right column. Unfortunately the right column gets smaller with increasing font sizes :-( - it should have a fixed width, specified in em.
[...] If you now put two columns in col2 - col2.2 with 10em width floating right and a col2.1 with auto-width and a right margin of 11em col2.2 will be positioned below col2.1 ;-(.
This {s,h}ould only happen at very large font sizes and would still be better than cut-off text. (Needless to say that float: is intended to do exactly this - if you don't like that it moves below, use table layouts again ;-) I found another bug after visiting my eye doctor ;-) - when you reduce the font size to the lower limit in Konqueror, the "In other languages" dropdown is cut off. Maybe you should _not_ give a fixed width to it (or it's container), not even using em as unit... Screenshot: www.cboltz.de/tmp/opensuse-smallfont.png Regards, Christian Boltz -- Du hast nen Crusoe? Hm, gibts damit Probleme? Mit VIA-Chips hab ich da noch was im Kopf, Crusoe ist hierzulande vermutlich so selten wie vertrauenswürdige Politiker ... [Manfred Tremmel in suse-linux] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 14:41:13 Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
there was one last thing still missing in the new Template for openSUSE.org
One remark: in the navigation box better write "Wiki" instead of "Community Wiki" (as on news.o.o now) to avoid confusion with openSUSE-Community wiki. Bye, Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org
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