On 8/10/06, Martin Lasarsch wrote:

- pt is ready, we will announce it later when the missing interwiki entry for pt is ready ... thanks Hugo

If possible, I would prefer if we could fix the "User" translation before making the annoucement. Having "User" translated as "Usuário" is way to weird for a portuguese. Regards, Hugo Costelha

On 8/10/06, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

On 2006-08-10 12:22:34 +0100, Hugo Costelha wrote:

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On 8/10/06, Martin Lasarsch wrote:

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- pt is ready, we will announce it later when the missing interwiki entry for pt is ready ... thanks Hugo

If possible, I would prefer if we could fix the "User" translation before making the annoucement. Having "User" translated as "Usuário" is way to weird for a portuguese.

pt vs pt-br again?

that translation is upstream in mediawiki like that.

I imagined that, but I am sure there is something that can be done to have the wiki text correct, right? This is not a pt versus anyother language discussion. we are talking about the Portuguese wiki, so it is expected that it is written in Portuguese, it is as simple as that. Please do not turn this into a discussion. And of course, I am here to help any way I can to have everything working fine. Regards, Hugo Costelha

On 8/10/06, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

On 2006-08-10 13:04:57 +0100, Hugo Costelha wrote:

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I imagined that, but I am sure there is something that can be done to have the wiki text correct, right?

This is not a pt versus anyother language discussion. we are talking about the Portuguese wiki, so it is expected that it is written in Portuguese, it is as simple as that. Please do not turn this into a discussion.

And of course, I am here to help any way I can to have everything working fine.

my points are: 1. do you know why it is like that in mediawiki? if not can you try to find out? 2. this is a problem and _has_ to be discussed. we want to stay as close as possible to wikipedia, to make it as easy as possible to work with our wiki, if you already know wikipedia.

I have to say, that although I made some readings in wikipedia, I am not an editor of wikipedia itself. Given what you said, I took a look at wikimedia and wikipedia. In Wikipedia they group both languages and ask people to detail the lexical differences whenever they appear (see http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Boas_vindas_aos_estrangeiros). If we start everything right from the beggining, there is no need to mix things. And there is no need of a mix in order to have PT taking advantage of PT_br and vice-versa. And above all, trust me, the differences are too much. Wikimedia itself differenciates PT from PT_br, and it seems that most of the things are in portuguese, and the ones that are in brazillian portuguese are being translated to portuguese. So you should not have problems concerning this matter. Particularly concerning the "User" word, I advise you to look at the beggining of http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/MessagesPt... . Here they have the following: ----------------------------------> CODE CUT NS_USER => 'Usuário', NS_USER_TALK => 'Usuário_Discussão', /* Above entries are for PT_br. The following entries should be used instead. But: DO NOT USE THOSE ENTRIES WITHOUT MIGRATING STUFF ON WIKIMEDIA WEB SERVERS FIRST !! You will just break a lot of links 8-) NS_USER => 'Utilizador', # 2 NS_USER_TALK => 'Utilizador_Discussão', # 3 */ <---------------------------------- CODE CUT I have not digged it much, but it seems that if we make that change now, we will better prepared for the future, i.e., we will not have the same problem that they have, since we still have just a few links with "Usuário" instead of "Utilizador". If we do not change know, it will be much more difficult later in the process. Comments? Hugo Costelha